Axial flow 9250

[lucas]

Hi I'm looking at changing combine. And changing colour, to case axial flow 9250 which would be a big step.

What are people experiences with these machines?
How many acres are you putting through? What's the reliability been like?
What did they replace? Would you have another?
Do they still struggle in damp straw like the original ones did?

 

[Bax]

Never owned one had a demo though. It went ok no better than anything else, knocked hell out of the straw horrible to bale after. Didn't like having to change concaves between crops. If its cheap it will do a job. Didn't use it in the damp. We have a CR now which doesn't like damp straw, but leaves a better swath of straw.

 

[D14]

Hi I'm looking at changing combine. And changing colour, to case axial flow 9250 which would be a big step.

What are people experiences with these machines?
How many acres are you putting through? What's the reliability been like?
What did they replace? Would you have another?
Do they still struggle in damp straw like the original ones did?

They need to be a chunk cheaper than anything else to be a viable option, and they aren’t so not an option. 10 years ago they were 30% cheaper than the other main brands and sold well. Case have since pushed the prices to equal the main brands because they think their product is equally as good. It’s not and it needs to be 30% cheaper.

 

[snarling bee]

If it is the same price with a McDon Flexidraper, and a Redicop chopper then you might be on to a winner, otherwise I agree - it needs to be cheaper. I think the 10.90 and 9250 have reached the limit as far as their rotors are concerned, the other main 2 brands have just lifted the bar.

 

[lucas]

Thanks for the replies. I'm not comparing it with the biggest model of other brands. Im currently running a narrow bodied 760, and have another 400acres to do next harvest. Considering this and growing less OSR, so condensed harvest period, im looking to go up in size a little. Claas are quoting for 7700 or 8700, but have a long way to move compared to the Case. Hence why im looking at it.
Cheaper, 3year warranty are appealing and looking at potentially tougher times ahead, a lot simpler mechanically machine would be cheaper to maintain if we have to keep it a while.

 

[barleybasher]

Good combines, good value, high output and low running costs. If you have a good dealer then definitely worth giving a serious look.

 

[D14]

Thanks for the replies. I'm not comparing it with the biggest model of other brands. Im currently running a narrow bodied 760, and have another 400acres to do next harvest. Considering this and growing less OSR, so condensed harvest period, im looking to go up in size a little. Claas are quoting for 7700 or 8700, but have a long way to move compared to the Case. Hence why im looking at it.
Cheaper, 3year warranty are appealing and looking at potentially tougher times ahead, a lot simpler mechanically machine would be cheaper to maintain if we have to keep it a while.

Whats the price of one today?

 

[lucas]

Whats the price of one today?

I Will DM you

 

[N.Yorks.]

Even the germans want an Axial Flow:

 

[Slug Herder]

Is there anyone on here who reliably sells straw at auction behind an axial flow. Can't see why straw quality behind af would be worse than a cr.
When a 6 walker combine can have 4 to 5 rotors before the walkers and up to 500hp. Can a simple axial flow be that bad to bale behind. Really need to hear from someone with several seasons of experience local dealer hasn't come forward with any useful contacts.

 

[deleted user 837354]

Is there anyone on here who reliably sells straw at auction behind an axial flow. Can't see why straw quality behind af would be worse than a cr.
When a 6 walker combine can have 4 to 5 rotors before the walkers and up to 500hp. Can a simple axial flow be that bad to bale behind. Really need to hear from someone with several seasons of experience local dealer hasn't come forward with any useful contacts.

The problem used to be in earlier axial flows that the straw was always basically passed through the chopper on it's way out and then thrown out of the back of the combine at speed. It didn't fall gently out like other combines: it was chucked out at speed. Throw in a good cross-wind breeze and the swath would end up all over the place.

It's not so much the fact that is it a rotary machine more the way the straw is handled along the way.

 

[Mr Charisma]

Is there anyone on here who reliably sells straw at auction behind an axial flow. Can't see why straw quality behind af would be worse than a cr.
When a 6 walker combine can have 4 to 5 rotors before the walkers and up to 500hp. Can a simple axial flow be that bad to bale behind. Really need to hear from someone with several seasons of experience local dealer hasn't come forward with any useful contacts.

We had a 9230 on demo , we asked for it to be set up for saving the straw as much as possible , this was first wheat cut of the season , our JD 2268 with 20ft header left 7 bales in a run the axial flow with 35 ft header left 4

As said above the axial flow used the chopper blades to propel the straw out the back of the combine and onto the stubble at mach 2

 

[Slug Herder]

We had a 9230 on demo , we asked for it to be set up for saving the straw as much as possible , this was first wheat cut of the season , our JD 2268 with 20ft header left 7 bales in a run the axial flow with 35 ft header left 4

We had a bad demo about 10yrs ago with a similar problem. At the time the crop was unforgiving and the spring barley was refusing to feed in. Our TX68 plus was similarly not progressing. As for straw the tx left straw crumpled but about 6-9inch the af powered it into the floor.
I put it down to a bad demo. Also many have fitted a rake on the back to present the straw better.
There must be enough 230,240,250 series out there to find some sensible settings to preserve the straw.

 

[Spencer]

We had a 9230 on demo , we asked for it to be set up for saving the straw as much as possible , this was first wheat cut of the season , our JD 2268 with 20ft header left 7 bales in a run the axial flow with 35 ft header left 4

As said above the axial flow used the chopper blades to propel the straw out the back of the combine and onto the stubble at mach 2

Did you weigh the bales?

 

[deleted user 837354]

I have always had the impression that the Axial flow design was never really designed for crops containing a lot of straw or haulm. In corn they are absolute demons because only the cob is entering the machine. Similarly, in soybeans or sunflowers or OSR there is much less straw entering the machine and so a bit of green or damp material is less of a problem. In UK wheat, barley or oat crops, it has a lot more material to get down that rotor and sieve out effectively. In the past axial flows were cheaper to buy, very easy to maintain and setup and didn't have a lot of complexity in them. I could see they would be ideal for someone who wanted to leave a longer stubble or use stripper header and needed the machine for that aftermarket chopper/spreader. There must be some people who own the latest machines and who are reliably covering big acreages here.

 

[Mr Charisma]

Did you weigh the bales?

It was bad enough just moving the bales let alone trying to weigh them, when we got the straw eventually moved then the problem was coping with the straw left in the swath, it wouldn't go through various cultivators to try and spread it then when we triod there was to much straw left in the triod land where the combine had cut.
Im not stupid enough to say that this is going to be the case all of the time and we were probably unlucky on that day but our experience was bad enough to put us of
If I was going to chop most of my straw then for me then it would of been a no brainer,

Ps we tried 3 different balers as well to see if we could pick the straw, up

 

[Mr Charisma]

We had a bad demo about 10yrs ago with a similar problem. At the time the crop was unforgiving and the spring barley was refusing to feed in. Our TX68 plus was similarly not progressing. As for straw the tx left straw crumpled but about 6-9inch the af powered it into the floor.
I put it down to a bad demo. Also many have fitted a rake on the back to present the straw better.
There must be enough 230,240,250 series out there to find some sensible settings to preserve the straw.

The case men stopped the machine after the first hour to try and fit some new rakes to try and slow the straw down but they didn't do anything really

 

[Flat 10]

We used to let the straw hit the spreader discs with the vanes off. Fluffed it up a lot. But not good in a windy day. On a hot dry day they do smash the straw, baled a lot behind one, straw was short and broken but some people really liked it for bedding as very absorbent.

 

[Slug Herder]

So there is a good chance the redecop chopper will act as a good slide to present the straw to the ground.

 

[yellow belly]

i had a 9010 then replaced by a 9240
now have a cr9.80

the biggest thing i miss is the hydro unblock system on the case and the unload system