Badly behaved Dairy bull?

My father has a young dairy bull he bought just after Christmas. Its been a late year getting the cows out so he has only really been out a month or so.

My father has been put out of the yard twice now after gathering the cows in by this young bull. My brother went to turn the cows out and the bull made a go for him also, so my father questions the duration of the bull on the farm

What would you do with him? Any way to settle this young bull?

If he doesn't catch a bit of sense the bull is for steak.
Send the bull to the knackers yard
 

Whitewalker

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Angus bull came through a hedge and stopped with only an electric fence between us . Then turned round and went straight back from where he came. By 4pm he was in a house and on a lorry in 24 hours. Don’t risk it . In general terms a bull in a life time is nothing a life in a lifetime is everything.
 
Uncle had a Danish Red bull which pulled his copper ring out of his nose so vet sedated him and used a stainless steel ring - the bull then promptly pulled his nose out with the ring remaining intact.

Only one answer .
 

milkloss

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Livestock Farmer
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East Sussex
I’ll join the general opinion and say get rid. Don’t be tempted to put a length of chain on his nose ring (so he trips over it) as One day the chain might have come off without you noticing.

The ground they can cover is phenomenal so please don’t risk it. We had a rotebunde bull and he was a right basket. When lookering it was imperative to have the bike in 4wd or else he’d have the backend in the air and you were going nowhere. Was quite amusing buzzing his nose with the back tyre at full throttle though. Ended up only being able to go round in the land rover.
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
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somerset
Lots of bulls will go through a bit of a frisky stage and then settle down
I used to run a big Ayrshire bull, he had been a bit wild as a younger, I wouldn't go into the field of he was close
By the time he left he was like a pet, he'd eat cake out of my hand every day
But if you don't think you can manage him safely then he has to go

and that's the most dangerous bull of all, friend had a hol bull he could do anything with, walked out in the field and read his metal ear tag, any other person, in a vehicle with him, bloody thing would try and tip the truck over, anyway his miius told him, walked out into the field to get him in for the lorry, next thing he knew was waking up in hospital, smashed up ribs, arm, collar bone etc, he was in for 3 weeks, get the thing gone
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
A number of dairy bulls used to be fitted with a mask - same idea as the mask used for trained birds of prey. Can you still buy them?
I chucked ours out 30 years ago, if you need to use one, the bull shouldn't be there. I have used a length of chain on a ring, works for a while with a young bull, and they never go out. just think, injured/dead walker, you in court, 'well you knew he was dangerous, because you took steps to control him' guilty
 

egbert

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Livestock Farmer
Lots of bulls will go through a bit of a frisky stage and then settle down
I used to run a big Ayrshire bull, he had been a bit wild as a younger, I wouldn't go into the field of he was close
By the time he left he was like a pet, he'd eat cake out of my hand every day
But if you don't think you can manage him safely then he has to go

You're into fairly esoteric territory now, being able to get em in order, but knowing when to quit.
I've no experience with dairy, but masses with beef bulls, and advising someone else is fraught.
I've had several bulls turn up here with attitude, and quickly had them sorted....but you never really know.

The OP sounds like he's already afraid of this creature, and both parties know it.
Getting the bull back in hand from that position will take some doing.

Another vote for the chop here.
 

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