Greythundercloudys
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Do you get less bad bales on there end or is it just the fashion to stack them like that.
Bales on there end or on there round
- Thread starter Greythundercloudys
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On there end you get more bales in a smaller shed, they retain there shape better and you get better control of how you remove them from the shed, if your staking outside I don’t even stack I put them in single rows end to end they stay dryer longer and self dry when the weather lets them. Just lots of rows but you need lots of space.
in sheds when stacking them on there ends, I stagger the rows just like they do when they are staked on there rounds to avoid gaps and pack them in so you don’t lose space. And again they retain a better shape customers can still roll them.
- Location
- Ceredigion
Never stack hay like chimneys or the top bale will be crap . But plenty do , its ok if its 100 % dry . But most Ryegrass Hay will breath a bit and spoil the top bale
- Location
- northumberland
Depends on the crop and how tight the bales are
While true, and they always breath, And we make Timothy, ryegrass round hay we never find it a problem as long as, as you say the hay was fit to bale in the first place.
if you want to stop that spoiling put a small layer of straw over the bales as the mark if you’re worried happens as the warm air (or stream) from the bales hits the cold it condensates and makes a mark, so if your worried just spread 200mm of straw over the bales. or just put a small straw over the centre of every round bale tower. you can likely reuse the bales as they will not get that wet unless the hay was far from fit.
we actualy find the chimney effect helps unfit hay make without spoiling just add the straw if you know it will steam.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
According to the experts at the HSE, stacking bales on their end is a complete no-no. If you have an inspection, you will be forced to restack them, however inconvenient, impractical or dangerous it is to do so......
I did stack some in rows once, two bales high with a foot between the rows to stop rats. It was a field away from the buildings, on a dry patch next to attack. They were all pushed over by (clearly big) kids from the local town.? if you are going to stack like bean cans, put them up against each other to make them more stable and they’re perfectly safe.
For dry haylage, I’ve stacked both ways and it didn’t make a jot of difference to the quality of the resultant bales. I stack in a pyramid near the buildings now.
I did stack some in rows once, two bales high with a foot between the rows to stop rats. It was a field away from the buildings, on a dry patch next to attack. They were all pushed over by (clearly big) kids from the local town.? if you are going to stack like bean cans, put them up against each other to make them more stable and they’re perfectly safe.
For dry haylage, I’ve stacked both ways and it didn’t make a jot of difference to the quality of the resultant bales. I stack in a pyramid near the buildings now.
Silage, hay or straw @Greythundercloudys?
Silage meant to be better on ends as plastic thicker there so less chance of stone damage from the bottom and birds from the top.
Do our on sides though and never get much bother with them that way.
Silage meant to be better on ends as plastic thicker there so less chance of stone damage from the bottom and birds from the top.
Do our on sides though and never get much bother with them that way.
multi power
Member
- Location
- pembrokeshire
Absolutely rubbish
multi power
Member
- Location
- pembrokeshire
Only ever stack silage bales on end
End of story
End of story
Lol HSE, you are likely right, but I would be hard to convince that stacking on a flat side 4 bales high is that dangouse that I have to re stack a barn for them to be happy, you can even step the sides like stacking on the round if that was a HSE concern.
we already step the sides down to 3 bales because we risk damaging the shed roof at the lower eaves.
I will cross that bridge when I get to it.
http://www.m-x.eu/en/products/telescopic-implement-loaders/manubal/manubal-v500-e327-l2-r331.aspx
I use one of these they are great. You can stack nice and high even with a tractor.
why make bale grabs that are made to stack bales on there ends if HSE frown on it?
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
I use similar, but a McHale one.?
HSE don’t frown on it, as I posted, it’s a complete no-no. They will, and do, insist on restacking, and quite a few were made to do so round here. There was a bit more leeway on stacks of quadrants that were nearly used up, but rounds had a prohibition notice on them until restacked.
It also counted as another ‘improvement notice’, where they start charging for the whole inspection when you have two.
Little tinkers they are....
Hi just to clarify it’s frowned on with rules it’s not that they are banned, read for your self.
https://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg125.pdf
if you have open barns just use ratchet straps between the legs if they say the stack is unsafe. They just want to show they cannot fall out of the shed.
Or use square bales on the sides.
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- Location
- Ceredigion
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Greythundercloudys
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Silage, have alot of bales picked by crows at the stack.
- Location
- Scottsih Borders
Hi just to clarify it’s frowned on with rules it’s not that they are banned, read for your self.
https://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg125.pdf
if you have open barns just use ratchet straps between the legs if they say the stack is unsafe. They just want to show they cannot fall out of the shed.
Or use square bales on the sides.
Ten pages on how to stack bales!!!! They don't seem to understand that the longer the leaflet, the less chance that people will read it.
Do they produce a leaflet or a novel on ''making mountains out of mole hills''?
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Hi just to clarify it’s frowned on with rules it’s not that they are banned, read for your self.
https://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg125.pdf
if you have open barns just use ratchet straps between the legs if they say the stack is unsafe. They just want to show they cannot fall out of the shed.
Or use square bales on the sides.
You would think so wouldn't you, but no, that would be too simple. They did a round of random visits in this area 12 months ago. Several people that I know had 'improvement notices' given and had to restack their round bales in a pyramid as a result of their visit, before they were allowed to use them.
I had an improvement notice for my small stack of quadrants, but was allowed to use them up. Any new stacks would have to be stepped in though, as per their current advice. Square bales on the side of a 'tin can' stack (to hide them?
) would also have to be stepped in every 2 layers, so as to avoid having to be restacked. I can't think I've ever seen any stacks of round bales indoors, that weren't stacked on end.
Boohoo
Member
- Location
- Newtownabbey
Have you tried putting the odd sacrifice bale up higher? So if you usually stack 3 high put them 4 high in places. Birds only pick the top layer. A sheet or net is the other option.
- Location
- nottingham
We stack on end because of crows on top but one year they stood on them and pecked side of next layer
so ended up with net over anyway , better on ends for stones etc on bottom and its a thicker bit to keep mice out.- Tags
- baling mchale round bales rye ryegrass
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