Best low disturbance subsoiler?

Drdf96

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Location
Glos/Worcs
Just looking for a few opinions on low disturbance subsoilers. Looking for a machine to fit in with a direct drilling system, currently running a simba flatliner 500 and not achieving what we want with simba legs, and certain low disturbance legs (not naming as don't want to bad mouth). We demoed a sumo LDS and was very impressed but a hefty £ tag. Just interested if there are any opinions on a TWB and spaldings flatlift? Many thanks!
 

Stephen E

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Mixed Farmer
Location
South Northants
We have one of Tim Howards latest subsoilers here. They are extremely well built machines and have staggered legs in front of and behind a wide beam, giving a lot of point to point clearance. This also means by altering the top link, you alter the pitch on the feet, but without affecting the depth across the machine. Something not possible on a V form. He makes interchangeable feet to suit whatever width, depth or finish is required.
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Bob lincs

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Arable Farmer
Just looking for a few opinions on low disturbance subsoilers. Looking for a machine to fit in with a direct drilling system, currently running a simba flatliner 500 and not achieving what we want with simba legs, and certain low disturbance legs (not naming as don't want to bad mouth). We demoed a sumo LDS and was very impressed but a hefty £ tag. Just interested if there are any opinions on a TWB and spaldings flatlift? Many thanks!
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Quivogne legs bolted to some flat the same size as your original legs are excellent we have a set in a 7 leg v form , they come with 6" wings but we cut them down to 4" and they move everything at 650mm centres . We run ours 8-12" deep and they don't take a lot of pulling and follow straight up with our 750a . The best LD tine on the market and not expensive .
 

spikeislander

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Location
bedfordshire
Have they got any replaceable parts? Or do you bolt a complete assembly on when worn?
@Stephen E do you find the trash flow better on the staggered leg layout over the traditional v shape?
I am thinking of getting something and wondering if the v style set up might become old style?
We have a v form but have all the osr seeding legs, tanks etc on it and it's a pain to swap and not really wide enough.
Also what are peoples views on the cousins leg as you see alot converted, I would like to use the amount of spares I have in the shed but if I don't want this to be to the detriment of doing the best job.
 

Bob lincs

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Arable Farmer
Have they got any replaceable parts? Or do you bolt a complete assembly on when worn?
@Stephen E do you find the trash flow better on the staggered leg layout over the traditional v shape?
I am thinking of getting something and wondering if the v style set up might become old style?
We have a v form but have all the osr seeding legs, tanks etc on it and it's a pain to swap and not really wide enough.
Also what are peoples views on the cousins leg as you see alot converted, I would like to use the amount of spares I have in the shed but if I don't want this to be to the detriment of doing the best job.
Hi , these legs don't have any wearing parts you just replace the whole lot , they are made of hardox so do last quite well on our land . In my experience full size legs ie cousins , spaldings type of leg don't do low disturbance very well due to the width of the leg itself .
 

Bob lincs

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Arable Farmer
Hi , these legs don't have any wearing parts you just replace the whole lot , they are made of hardox so do last quite well on our land . In my experience full size legs ie cousins , spaldings type of leg don't do low disturbance very well due to the width of the leg itself .
Compare the width of the leg in my 1st pic to the piece of steel its bolted to ( the same as a cousins leg ) and it's quite a difference .
 
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Stephen E

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Mixed Farmer
Location
South Northants
@Stephen E do you find the trash flow better on the staggered leg layout over the traditional v shape?
I am thinking of getting something and wondering if the v style set up might become old style.
Trash flow on ours has been very good. I can't remember blocking it in 2 seasons planting OSR. A lot of this was into a very thick carpet of chopped spring barley straw. Point to point clearance on ours is 31" with a leg spacing of 450 mm. This is quite a bit more than our old V form. You're welcome to have a look if you would like to.
 

Quivogne UK

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Location
Suffolk
Hi , these legs don't have any wearing parts you just replace the whole lot , they are made of hardox so do last quite well on our land . In my experience full size legs ie cousins , spaldings type of leg don't do low disturbance very well due to the width of the leg itself .
Just seen this post - to let you know we do weld on replacement tips and weld on replacement wings complete with a tip already on it. We also offer the part with tungsten carbide up the shin, on the tip and on the full width of the wings to help maintain lift
 

Will 1594

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Arable Farmer
Take a look at terry birches Twb. How big a machine you after. He does a compact 6 leg mounted machine. We have had very good success with out 8 leg machine. Well built at right price where in country are you. Can sort you a demo. And his 12 mm wide low disturbance legs can be welded to any top we did about 400 acre of limestone and heavy and points and wings worn very well Pm if you want any help or pictures
 
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Our 3 metre demonstrator LDS is available with single disc coulters for under £15000 without the seeder box, warranty and subsidised finance available
 

james ds

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Location
leinster
erth engineering do very good one and it is very good rocky ground
I have one and I'm annoyed at how easy it is to bend legs , it's hard to do a days work with out bending some part of the tip or leg. And it wasn't in rocky ground . Also in that video you have no shin guards on the legs , helps it do a clean job , but it will wear the legs through in two days.
 

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The Livestock and Meat Commission (LMC) recently submitted oral evidence to members of the Stormont Agriculture, Environment and Rural Affairs (AERA) committee on the content and potential impact of the Northern Ireland Climate Change Bill (No.2).

This draft legislation was recently introduced to the Northern Ireland Assembly by the Department of Agriculture, Environment and Rural Affairs (DAERA) in conjunction with agriculture minister, Edwin Poots.

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