best practise for tire change

[freelancer]

Hi,
i have to change 650/65 R42 tires on a JD iron horse with bar axle and cast iron rims. Which way is best?

 

[michael N123]

Pick the phone up and have someone else do it

 

[davidroberts30]

jack it up and leave wheels on tractor
a good fitter will swop them in a hour or so

 

[Bobthebuilder]

Deffo a job for the pros with all the gear, why sweat your t1ts off struggling without the right tools

 

[robs1]

Big tyres are much easier to do than smaller ones, leave wheel on tractor, breaking the bead is the hard part, as long as you use some tyre paste they slip on and off easily, just need some easy start to blow it on to the rims

 

[rick_vandal]

Hi,
i have to change 650/65 R42 tires on a JD iron horse with bar axle and cast iron rims. Which way is best?

Can I stop you there, what JD has cast iron rims? Sounds a bit post-war to deserve a radial tyre! I know PAVT are heavy and water ballast is a wet nightmare. I got trapped into changing a tube inside an R28 tyre on an antique 3 piece rim, never again! The experts can earn their keep.

 

[TripleSix]

Can I stop you there, what JD has cast iron rims? Sounds a bit post-war to deserve a radial tyre! I know PAVT are heavy and water ballast is a wet nightmare. I got trapped into changing a tube inside an R28 tyre on an antique 3 piece rim, never again! The experts can earn their keep.

Iron Horse series was the 40 series machines, 1978-1982

Yep big cast wheel centres

 

[rick_vandal]

Iron Horse series was the 40 series machines, 1978-1982

Yep big cast wheel centres

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My mistake for being caught up in 'Street Speak' when rims means wheels, bro.

 

[TripleSix]

My mistake for being caught up in 'Street Speak' when rims means wheels, bro.

True dat

 

[freelancer]

I did call 3 different tire dealers in my region, they all want me to take the wheels off. So i tried it yesterday. Open the 3 screws was ok, then tighten the pusher bolts. Big hammer hits on the bar axle. This is the result. The wedge did have a small crack before. This morning i open the 3 srews on the inside from the second wedge and cut a piece of pipe to construct a tool to push back the wedges + second person swinging the hammer. Nothing happens. Then i did heat up the rest of the broken wedge with acetylene oxygen without any result. I am f**ked up and did now order a bead braker!

 

[whiddy]

Oh Deere!
You really don't need to take the wheels off!

 

[Matthew Britton]

Oh Deere!
You really don't need to take the wheels off!

It depends where the op is based but here in France it seems quite common to take the wheels off. They look at me funny when I a) do it myself and b) leave the wheels on. Taking them off seems a queer way of going about things to me!

 

[whiddy]

I should have realised when the title said, tire and not tyre!!

 

[freelancer]

yesterday we took off the first tire. hardest thing was the start to get some space for the bead braker with hammer + chisel. the tire is f**king unflexible. if we release the bead braker carefully, the tire fires the bead braker 2m through the workshop....

 

[roscoe erf]

those cast centres if not regularly moved are a bast4rd to get off took me 2 days of heating lubricating bashing just to get the sum bitches loose

 

[Lofty1984]

Push it with the loader sounds like you’ve done well not to injure yourself or others so far

 

[puntabrava]

I did call 3 different tire dealers in my region, they all want me to take the wheels off. So i tried it yesterday. Open the 3 screws was ok, then tighten the pusher bolts. Big hammer hits on the bar axle. This is the result. The wedge did have a small crack before. This morning i open the 3 srews on the inside from the second wedge and cut a piece of pipe to construct a tool to push back the wedges + second person swinging the hammer. Nothing happens. Then i did heat up the rest of the broken wedge with acetylene oxygen without any result. I am f**ked up and did now order a bead braker!

Judging by your spelling of tire your in North America. Ring your three tyre dealers back and tell them they are not worth a w.a.n.k as a good tractor driver can change those tyres where there at.

 

[rick_vandal]

yesterday we took off the first tire. hardest thing was the start to get some space for the bead braker with hammer + chisel. the tire is f**king unflexible. if we release the bead braker carefully, the tire fires the bead braker 2m through the workshop....

We feel your pain but you seem to be making hard work of a simple, routine job. Is it a tubed tyre? Have you taken the valve out? Refit the bead breaker and smack a blunt brick bolster each side of it with much soapy water.

 

[shumungus]

I have posted these on here before.

How to take them off.

And how to put them on.

Simples.

 

[Lofty1984]

Get angry with it