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oh sorry i misread you thenThat’s not what I said.
I said home grown British organic food at a premium price OR imported NONE organic food.
its some sham the whole carry on then
oh sorry i misread you thenThat’s not what I said.
I said home grown British organic food at a premium price OR imported NONE organic food.
That’s not what I said.
I said home grown British organic food at a premium price OR imported NONE organic food.
I think the opposite is true. Cross compliance stays for remainder of BPS, as the recompense for complying reduces, then neatly slides over to the statute book so will apply whether you sign up for ELMs or not. The recent document as good as says this.Cross compliance has basically been abolished? So yes if i'm right
Have you made the move to organic then?
I was obviously getting confused with the 3 crop rule etcI think the opposite is true. Cross compliance stays for remainder of BPS, as the recompense for complying reduces, then neatly slides over to the statute book so will apply whether you sign up for ELMs or not. The recent document as good as says this.
Just accept that half your farm will be in stewardship and half of it for food production.
If you want to make money the half cropped needs to be organic. None organic farmers have no future in U.K. food production within 10 years.
The future is groups of farmers working together. Say 4 x 500ac farmers. 1000ac of ELMS and 1000ac of organic food production. Of that 500ac of organic cropping and 500ac of organic meat production and grass.
Each farmer has an area they look after, but they are a collective. It’ll free up more time for them to enjoy life and sit back or retrain and have a sideline business.
Isn’t it just great that we’ve taken back control?
How on gods green earth is organic farming better for the environment than conventional farming!? In terms of carbon capture and trying to reach net zero its exactly the opposite to what is needed. Cultivating land numerous times to control weeds/pests etc releasing carbon every time you do is completely contradictory to what the government is trying to achieve Not to mention the massive increase in soil erosion this will cause!I’m not kidding no. Elms pilot .
None of us can produce a tonne of wheat, or a kg of meat at the same price as the likes of Brazil or Russia.
The designers of ELMS know this which is why the governments long term view is the U.K. being a carbon sequestration business running alongside healthy organic food production.
All the other food, full of chemicals which we all know deep down is bad news will be produced elsewhere so the British person will have two choices. British organic food or imported none organic food.
How on gods green earth is organic farming better for the environment than conventional farming!? In terms of carbon capture and trying to reach net zero its exactly the opposite to what is needed. Cultivating land numerous times to control weeds/pests etc releasing carbon every time you do is completely contradictory to what the government is trying to achieve Not to mention the massive increase in soil erosion this will cause!
I do agree that we will be 30-50% stewardship though.
It'll just transfer into a legal requirement in many cases.Cross compliance has basically been abolished? So yes if i'm right
i really don't get where you are coming from with this. its perfectly possible, providing you are on reasonable potential soil to continue growing profitable crops without bps and not needing to go organic.Totally agree with you but that’s what’s coming to us all.
I’m not kidding no. Elms pilot .
None of us can produce a tonne of wheat, or a kg of meat at the same price as the likes of Brazil or Russia.
The designers of ELMS know this which is why the governments long term view is the U.K. being a carbon sequestration business running alongside healthy organic food production.
All the other food, full of chemicals which we all know deep down is bad news will be produced elsewhere so the British person will have two choices. British organic food or imported none organic food.
i really don't get where you are coming from with this. its perfectly possible, providing you are on reasonable potential soil to continue growing profitable crops without bps and not needing to go organic.
from a Farming Tenants view i disagree with thati really don't get where you are coming from with this. its perfectly possible, providing you are on reasonable potential soil to continue growing profitable crops without bps and not needing to go organic.
i am a tenant too on fbt's, most of our land is owned by others. i am under no illusion that if the rents dont come down it wont be profitable to continue. lets hope land owners and agents can see the bigger picture.from a Farming Tenants view i disagree with that
but from a Farm Owners view i agree.
AHA here lesser Rent id expect but non the less there going to have to give a bit unless inputs give? if they dont we will just buy lessi am a tenant too on fbt's, most of our land is owned by others. i am under no illusion that if the rents dont come down it wont be profitable to continue. lets hope land owners and agents can see the bigger picture.
It's rubbish - I have seen a lot of the proposals in some detail now and its certainly NOT about going organic
The option is there of course .......... as it always has been
spot onThink your right Clive. Sustainable intensification in some cases. Think folks are confusing IPM and other "non-off the shelf" practises as organic.
I don't like the words regenerative farming as it's just another label that is going to be loaded onto the bandwagon.
Think farming is just evolving as it always has....... remember Turnip Townsend was a pioneer once upon a time.
i genuinely think uk produced food has basically got little value to our whole gov & that inc all partiesBut why are we allowing some farmer hating cluless civil servants to destroy the ONLY proffesion that the whole world needs.