BSE

[Old McDonald]

The Spanish flu pandemic was traced back to a US pig farm, while BSE was caused by farmers in the UK feeding cattle dead cattle.

BBC today. http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20200424-can-a-book-make-you-vegan

Can anything be done to stop this organisation telling lies to the world?

 

[teslacoils]

f**k vegans.

 

[Barleycorn]

More BBC middle-class bulls**t. All the lies in films such as Cowspiricy have all been disproved. I thought that this vegan nonsense had died off as people were eating healthier with this virus about

 

[CornishTone]

The Spanish flu pandemic was traced back to a US pig farm, while BSE was caused by farmers in the UK feeding cattle dead cattle.

BBC today. http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20200424-can-a-book-make-you-vegan

Can anything be done to stop this organisation telling lies to the world?

They were forced to retract a load of nonsense about meat the other day after the AHDB took them to task. All we can do is insist the likes of the NFU and AHDB drag them into court every time they do this. It's the only way they'll learn!

 

[Old McDonald]

I decided to read the link given in the article about the orgiin of Spanish flu and I quote:

An extensive review by the veterinarian W. W. Dimoch of the diseases of swine, published in August 1918, makes no mention of any swine disease resembling influenza (Dimoch 1918–19). Thus, contemporary investigators were convinced that influenza virus had not circulated as an epizootic disease in swine before 1918 and that the virus spread from humans to pigs because of the appearance of illness in pigs after the first wave of the 1918 influenza in humans (Shope 1936).

 

[Two Tone]

The Spanish flu pandemic was traced back to a US pig farm, while BSE was caused by farmers in the UK feeding cattle dead cattle.

BBC today. http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20200424-can-a-book-make-you-vegan

Can anything be done to stop this organisation telling lies to the world?

Probably not much can be done to stop this organisation telling lies.

But here’s the thing: How many times do we as farmers, see something by the BBC that we know about that they haven’t got right and is often completely back to front?

Surely, we are not the only industry that has noticed this. So hopefully there is huge speculation by others as to believing in anything that they see or read.

When the BBC show something so ridiculous as this or we read it in the newspapers, it does them no favours as everybody starts to disbelieve anything they say.

They only people who it will impress are those that want to believe it as it helps sharpens their own axe for them.

There really isn’t much in the press or the Beeb that I would trust as factual at all these days.

 

[Adeptandy]

 

[betweenthelines]

Badly worded, but regretably true in it's broadest sense as BSE originated with meat and bone meal (inc from cattle) being fed to cattle.

No point denying it, better to learn from it.

 

[deleted user 837354]

Was the link ever definitively proven?

 

[traineefarmer]

Badly worded, but regretably true in it's broadest sense as BSE originated with meat and bone meal (inc from cattle) being fed to cattle.

No point denying it, better to learn from it.

Was the link ever definitively proven?

No. Just tenuous theories, along with OP poisoning and the CJD link.

 

[Y Fan Wen]

Was the link ever definitively proven?

Back in the early days of bse, when we farmers were discussing it but the media and public hadn't found out about it, I was at a lecture arranged by mlc for us local farmers. The lecture was an effort to improve our presentation of fat animals to the mart and sh. In the discussion and questions afterwards of course we got on to the mystery disease. The lecturer said that all the cases up to then could be traced back to one batch of feed. The thinking was that the evolution had happened in one animal used in that batch and then been spread as affected feed was highly infectious.

 

[Blaithin]

Would be a rather large coincidence that it wasn’t feed related considering the drop in cases once feed regulations were put in place.

 

[glasshouse]

Back in the early days of bse, when we farmers were discussing it but the media and public hadn't found out about it, I was at a lecture arranged by mlc for us local farmers. The lecture was an effort to improve our presentation of fat animals to the mart and sh. In the discussion and questions afterwards of course we got on to the mystery disease. The lecturer said that all the cases up to then could be traced back to one batch of feed. The thinking was that the evolution had happened in one animal used in that batch and then been spread as affected feed was highly infectious.

Those pri.cks who made that feed should be shot
Bse ruined my farming career

 

[Wooly]

Would be a rather large coincidence that it wasn’t feed related considering the drop in cases once feed regulations were put in place.

Miraculously all the cattle and calves that were exported into Europe at that time, not a single one got BSE !!

Maybe the cure was to put them on a boat and cross the English Channel.

 

[Henarar]

Those pri.cks who made that feed should be shot
Bse ruined my farming career

If indeed it came from feed it was the government's fault for allowing it

 

[Henarar]

Miraculously all the cattle and calves that were exported into Europe at that time, not a single one got BSE !!

Maybe the cure was to put them on a boat and cross the English Channel.

No idea why they were killing whole herds in France but it couldn't have been BSE as there wasn't any was there

 

[Y Fan Wen]

Those pri.cks who made that feed should be shot
Bse ruined my farming career

Hindsight is a powerful weapon!

 

[Blaithin]

Miraculously all the cattle and calves that were exported into Europe at that time, not a single one got BSE !!

Maybe the cure was to put them on a boat and cross the English Channel.

Well it made it over here so it can’t just be a salt water cure.

 

[2wheels]

Those pri.cks who made that feed should be shot
Bse ruined my farming career

your life certainly seems full of misfortune.

 

[egbert]

Was the link ever definitively proven?

More or less impossible to prove retrospectively, although as said above...measures to stop it did so.

I was feeding a few tonnes (3-4) annually before it blew up, and when my feed merchant wasn't able to answer questions about ingredients, I went over to MVF (who would, and weren't trying to get me to feed my stock partly cooked ruminants)