Claas rollant 46 making soft bales

[Recoil]

I've got an old claas 46 baler and i'm having serious trouble getting nice solid bales. Would i get much better bales if i rowed up with a rake rather than a hay bob or is it something else? At the moment my rows are quite small so have been moving left to right over the row to try and get an even bale, but even that doesn't seem to get a solid bale.

 

[Andrew K]

Your better off with slightly soft bales if doing hay IMO, they will breathe better and not heat.

 

[bobk]

Am I alone that claas have never made a decent baler /mower/rake/tractor

 

[le bon paysan]

Am I alone that claas have never made a decent baler /mower/rake/tractor

 

[bobk]

Is that me or the statement

 

[Monty]

We find you get 20-30% more in a raked swath bale compared to a haybob swath bale. I put it down to the lumps in the haybob swath. Also it helps if you drive slower and give the bale longer to form

 

[balerman]

Claas bales out of a 46 are normally soft,used to be a nightmare too wrap behind,best you can do is make an even swath 4 foot 6 wide,will be much better bales than following a haybob.

 

[DrDunc]

Claas bales out of a 46 are normally soft,used to be a nightmare too wrap behind,best you can do is make an even swath 4 foot 6 wide,will be much better bales than following a haybob.

And go slow to give it time to make a bale.

I hate, hate, hate, wrapping my neighbours soggy teabag haylage out his 46.

 

[Johndeere]

Need a belt baler to get firmer bales, I would think a small Haybob row would make better bales as it takes longer to get a bale, a rollant 250 had three roller in the chamber which moved inwards at the start to help get a firmer bale. Baled 1000s with a 46, just wait till the bale won't turn in the chamber on dry straw!

 

[multi power]

its important to have a row the full width of pick up reel, this is easy with a haybob( you may need to drill more holes in gates to get then in a suitable position)
claas balers cant make good bales, a welger will, but what you realy need is a jd 545 or similar, no matter what you need to drive slow enough to allow the bale to form properly

 

[multi power]

Am I alone that claas have never made a decent baler /mower/rake/tractor

they used to make super mowers, wm 30/250

 

[Goweresque]

I've got an old claas 46 baler and i'm having serious trouble getting nice solid bales. Would i get much better bales if i rowed up with a rake rather than a hay bob or is it something else? At the moment my rows are quite small so have been moving left to right over the row to try and get an even bale, but even that doesn't seem to get a solid bale.

Is it a new problem, ie you used to get reasonably solid bales, but now you're not, or is it a new baler to you and you aren't sure if the bales should be coming out the way they are? Rollants never make a very solid bale at the best of times to be fair. Depends what you are used to I guess.

I've got an old Rollant 44, and it started playing up a few years ago, making very soft (even by its standards!) bales, and it was the seals in the rams on the back door - however much you pressurised the system, as soon as the pressure of the hay built up in the chamber the door started to open a bit. And once it has opened an inch, it won't go back, so you have to drop out another soggy bale and try again. And so on and so forth. There was also a valve on it at the front that controlled the oil flow for the opening/closing of the door, and that needed new seals too IIRC.

 

[Recoil]

It's not a new problem, but only just thought to post about it. How can i check the seals on the rams you mention?

 

[dunkie]

Good advice the previous two, nothing wrong with a 46 or any Class fixed chamber, forget 'better getting????' John Deere belt balers, I've had them all, baled kkkkkk 's with them, back to a Claas.

 

[Lincsman]

Not a baler man but i was under the impression a fixed chamber cannot make properly solid bales?

 

[multi power]

Not a baler man but i was under the impression a fixed chamber cannot make properly solid bales?

100% correct

 

[blackbob]

It's not a new problem, but only just thought to post about it. How can i check the seals on the rams you mention?

Presumably the needle on the pressure gauge is going up to the red sector ok? When it does, just leave it running and hop out and look see if the tailgate is still shut, it will be open an inch or 2 but shouldn't be much more, there isn't a latch to keep it closed only the hydraulic pressure, is that the difference with the Welger @multi power? Never used one but I remember them being small diameter

 

[Recoil]

Ok, i'll try that. How far into the red should i be letting it get before putting the net on? I usually just let it stay in the red for a second or two then put the net on.

 

[Monty]

Not a baler man but i was under the impression a fixed chamber cannot make properly solid bales?

Tell that to the contractor that bales ours unchopped with a jd 578. Kick one of his and break your foot.

 

[DrDunc]

Tell that to the contractor that bales ours unchopped with a jd 578. Kick one of his and break your foot.

Baled 300 with my jd 578 yesterday.

Knives were lovely and sharp. Things were going really well, until the wrapper man came to say it (McHale 991b) wouldn't lift the bales, they were too heavy!

So roller balers do make great solid bales, just not claas ones