Claim herbal and cover crop in same year?

[dannewhouse]

I have a herbal lay but I'm wanting to put a cover crop in over winter for spring barley next year,

What's my best bets for claiming, can I claim them both in this year?

 

[e3120]

I have a herbal lay but I'm wanting to put a cover crop in over winter for spring barley next year,

What's my best bets for claiming, can I claim them both in this year?

Don't think so. You'd need an autumn 2023 start.

I'm in a similar position. Spring start date. Better claiming cover + no insecticide over clover ley, but herbal ley better than the cover option.

Bit of a funny scenario where you can choose what to claim. I changed the land uses to WW in prep for the autumn in case someone accused me of claiming ipm4 on tg1, even though the system allows it.

All consequences of grass being viewed as a 2nd class crop.

 

[dannewhouse]

Was just too slow off the mark, could do with quarterly option to change!

 

[Scholsey]

Can you follow 2024 maize with a herbal ley and claim multi species winter cover crop for 2024 and SAM3 for 2025?

 

[L P]

Can you follow 2024 maize with a herbal ley and claim multi species winter cover crop for 2024 and SAM3 for 2025?

I believe you can, might want to put a few extras in the seed mix

 

[Regenerator1]

I have a herbal lay but I'm wanting to put a cover crop in over winter for spring barley next year,

What's my best bets for claiming, can I claim them both in this year?

1 CROP.. 1 Annual SFI payment.. you will add supliments like DD but... NO double funding will be allowed..

 

[farmerm]

I have a herbal lay but I'm wanting to put a cover crop in over winter for spring barley next year,

What's my best bets for claiming, can I claim them both in this year?

The problem is calander years and farming years often not being aligned... Computer will say no. I would consider applying for herb lay this year and claim the cover crop against the following year but I would want it in clear writing from the RPA that they will accept this. Frankly they should, you achieve the aims of both options even though the cover is established in calander year 1. Of course you cant then apply for anything else in the back end of calander year 2 and remember... you need to replace the herb lay with at least 50% of the year one area somewhere else for year 2.

 

[dannewhouse]

The problem is calander years and farming years often not being aligned... Computer will say no. I would consider applying for herb lay this year and claim the cover crop against the following year but I would want it in clear writing from the RPA that they will accept this. Frankly they should, you achieve the aims of both options even though the cover is established in calander year 1. Of course you cant then apply for anything else in the back end of calander year 2 and remember... you need to replace the herb lay with at least 50% of the year one area somewhere else for year 2.

Thanks for the reminder about replacing 50/ herbal, I have a fare acreage of them so will be within rules (worth a double check though)

 

[Regenerator1]

1 Payment per Ha per YEAR will be the SFI rules when they change them again at leisure with no comeback.. Unless you have a signed 3yr contract.. In which case enjoy...

 

[Regenerator1]

Rule of thumb... If it feels wrong... it will be wrong.. so don't be suprised when it is wrong... My Proverb...Amen