Combining maize

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Innovate UK
Location
Kent
Just pondering this.
What's crimped maize worth in the south east?
Or dried?
Not really interested in foraging it, too many trailers flying around, and not enough of a market.
 

Simon Chiles

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Just pondering this.
What's crimped maize worth in the south east?
Or dried?
Not really interested in foraging it, too many trailers flying around, and not enough of a market.

Weald Granary used to have a maize pool or at least contract dried and marketed maize. It might be worth giving them a call to see if they still do and whether they could market it for you.
 

kiwi pom

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Location
canterbury NZ
Just pondering this.
What's crimped maize worth in the south east?
Or dried?
Not really interested in foraging it, too many trailers flying around, and not enough of a market.

Don't know what it's worth but talking to my brother in the UK, he said they were selling the wheat they had and combining the maize to put through their beef cattle, as they had full pits of silage left and didn't really know what to do with it.
So maybe not worth much.
 

Bignor Farmer

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Mixed Farmer
Location
West Sussex
We used to do a bit of combined/dried maize 8 or 9 years ago. Merchants always had a home for a small amount. Value was always said to be feed wheat + £30/t (the approx cost of drying it) until wheat had a decent year and the £30 seemed to disappear quickly.
Don’t underestimate the effort of drying it from 30%. Had to put it through the drier twice, huge amount of steam and moisture through your sheds makes dust stick to everything but you get a lovely sweet smell of popcorn floating across the yard!

Used to end up with about 3.5t/ac dry off terrible land, far better than any cereal but we always did huge soil damage and never got wheat in after.
 

Against_the_grain

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Arable Farmer
Location
S.E
We used to do a bit of combined/dried maize 8 or 9 years ago. Merchants always had a home for a small amount. Value was always said to be feed wheat + £30/t (the approx cost of drying it) until wheat had a decent year and the £30 seemed to disappear quickly.
Don’t underestimate the effort of drying it from 30%. Had to put it through the drier twice, huge amount of steam and moisture through your sheds makes dust stick to everything but you get a lovely sweet smell of popcorn floating across the yard!

Used to end up with about 3.5t/ac dry off terrible land, far better than any cereal but we always did huge soil damage and never got wheat in after.
^^^this
Weather at/after harvest decides on following crop.
Good potential. Need earlier harvested varieties
 

MattR

Member
Stupid question probably (and slightly changing the subject) but how is corn on the cob harvested commercially?
 

Brisel

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Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
With a proper maize header and a big drier. Not much grown in Britain other than in the south. Beware of attractive looking gross margins that do not allow for 10-15% moisture extraction post harvest. In livestock areas propionic acid treatment of the wet grain and a silage clamp to sell as stock feed may well be more attractive.
 

Simon Chiles

DD Moderator
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With a proper maize header and a big drier. Not much grown in Britain other than in the south. Beware of attractive looking gross margins that do not allow for 10-15% moisture extraction post harvest. In livestock areas propionic acid treatment of the wet grain and a silage clamp to sell as stock feed may well be more attractive.

Apparently, if you combine it in April it doesn’t need drying.
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Would barley be better?

For what? Fusarium, maybe. Margin, no. We only grow maize as a break crop for the following first wheat, not because it stacks up particularly well as a crop in its own right.

Apparently, if you combine it in April it doesn’t need drying.

Small comfort! That's probably true but you'd need a sound rotation to avoid a lower farm margin. What would you grow after maize that would fill that slot and give you a good first wheat entry afterwards?
 

Weare Cham

Member
Location
N. Devon
With a proper maize header and a big drier. Not much grown in Britain other than in the south. Beware of attractive looking gross margins that do not allow for 10-15% moisture extraction post harvest. In livestock areas propionic acid treatment of the wet grain and a silage clamp to sell as stock feed may well be more attractive.
I think @MattR was referring to corn on the cob that you put on the barbecue?
 

Bogweevil

Member
Stupid question probably (and slightly changing the subject) but how is corn on the cob harvested commercially?

Not a stupid question - either by hand or there is a cob picking machine, either way it will need preparation the packhouse. I understand some large scale producers around Chichester and on the Isle of Wight have such machines and the machines are quite vigorous with the cobs.

Short season of use in the UK, but perhaps shared with the companies Spanish producers. I hope they clean it well when it comes back from Spain to keep the rootworm out!

Very popular PYO crop near London especially with expat Americans and Asian families - the whole family turns up and fills the car boot with cobs
 

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