Condescending Supermarket
- Thread starter Clive
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- Location
- East Sussex
theyll tell you it doesn't have a value. Wouldn't want a livestock man making skiing more expensive.......
gone up the hill
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- Location
- Devon
How much a kilo extra do you think they will pay?!
Average cost for a 300 acre mixed farm to comply with the GFC rules will be at least £5000 a year!
So ball park figure say that farm sells 400 prime lambs and 100 prime cattle the premium over the normal market base will need to be at least 50ppk deadweight to cover the GFC costs and also a small profit for all the work/ hassle of doing it!
- Location
- North Somerset.
Hence the conman tag. Don’t fret , I have as much enthusiasm for skiing as I do for golf.
Lots of chat about it having a value from those of us who hold what the cartel wants but no one able to put a value on it yet?
gone up the hill
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- Location
- Devon
Oh and in my local Morrisons store the beef/pork and lamb ( Fresh ) is all in one chiller section...
They have just reduced the space for beef/ pork/ lamb in that chiller by 20% and replaced it with meat free/ plant based bacon/ burgers/ sausages etc.. i wonder if the suppliers of these plant based options will also have to do the GFC to supply the supermarket going forwards?
They have just reduced the space for beef/ pork/ lamb in that chiller by 20% and replaced it with meat free/ plant based bacon/ burgers/ sausages etc.. i wonder if the suppliers of these plant based options will also have to do the GFC to supply the supermarket going forwards?
- Location
- N.Lincs
If I was 40 years younger, I'd have a go.
I've always thought it could be done, obviously the stuff we can't grow here like bananas and oranges and the like would have to be bought on the open market and all the washing up liquid and brillo pads and all that sort of stuff.....
.......anyway, I'm 40 years older now, so no need to get bogged down with the minor details
- Location
- N.Lincs
No, but it wants a line 'drawing in the sand' to establish that, if/when these carbon credits become 'a thing', they belong to farmers and not the processing/retail sector and if they want them, they'll have to buy them.
Otherwise the slippery barstewards of the cartel will try and find a way of getting them for nowt.
- Location
- sw scotland
If you do a carbon audit under current calculations a livestock farmer has no carbon credits to spare as ruminants are huge polluters. You would have to buy credits in to be neutral or plant half your farm in trees, rewild some and sell off stock.
Oh, I've just described government policy
Are you a live weight man or dead weight?
gone up the hill
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- Location
- Devon
Will not make any diffrence if you sell liveweight or deadweight if to be assured you have to do the GFC which is what will happen within 3/ 5 years of it being introduced.
So when does this do-so-do supermarket GFC-type window dressing become a bottom line reality?
It's interesting to see Asda and Morrisons Xmas sales figures weren't that great.
www.retailgazette.co.uk
www.retail-week.com
It's interesting to see Asda and Morrisons Xmas sales figures weren't that great.
Sainsbury's crowned Christmas winner as grocery sales hit £13bn - Retail Gazette
Sainsbury's has been named as the big winner over Christmas as grocery sales surpassed the £13bn mark in December for the first time.
www.retailgazette.co.uk
What the grocers’ bumper Christmas hauls mean for retail in 2024
With their stockings overflowing with surging profits and sales, and the wrapping ripped off at least one profit upgrade, it seems that Father Christmas was generous with his gifts to the grocers over the festive period.
www.retail-week.com
For sure. I was curious to know if you were dealing directly with an abattoir wether your buyer had already approached you about a carbon audit?
suffolksmallholder
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- Location
- Suffolk
gone up the hill
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- Location
- Devon
Not heard anything about a carbon audit,
Guess it will depend what happens with the RT GFC module coming in or not on what the supermarkets do next!
There is no way that small family farms of 300 acres ( or less ) can afford/ justify doing the GFC with a cost of £5000 a year unless that money can be recouped when the livestock/ grain is sold over and above the normal deadweight base price!
If RT introduce it/ make it a condition of being assured then with no clear price bonus covering the costs of doing the GFC then it could well be the start of the end for RT/ farm assurance!
As suppliers of a novel , niche product of unknown demand, they almost certainly have already paid for listing/shelf space and done a deal whereby they receive only a notional price when/if the product is sold. It is a result of such marginal profitability that the high failure rate of such ventures is seen.
I should have a word with this body as soon as you have some time. https://ico.org.uk/
ICO can make recalcitrant outfits like RT buck up their behaviour!!
Christoph1945
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- Location
- Widnes West Cheshire
Red Tractor????? Isn't that the self-serving cashcow, that rules farmers with a rod of iron?
sh!t! Just as I am reeling from the postoffice debacle I have the deep feeling that Red Tractor will be taking their place in the headlines.
God bless and uphold all our farmers and protect them from the House of Commons!
sh!t! Just as I am reeling from the postoffice debacle I have the deep feeling that Red Tractor will be taking their place in the headlines.
God bless and uphold all our farmers and protect them from the House of Commons!
- Location
- DD9.
What does ICO stand for?I should have a word with this body as soon as you have some time. https://ico.org.uk/
ICO can make recalcitrant outfits like RT buck up their behaviour!!