Crazy Energy Prices....

manhill

Member
My new house in 2025:
No oil or gas fired boiler
No fossil solid fuel heater
No electric heater cos the wind stopped blowing, it's cloudy, nuclear is being frowned on. Anyway cars are taking all the eleccy.
What am I to do?
Goosedown padded clothes?
Wait a minute, if global warming is taking place this fast, the house won't need heating. Brilliant, I knew the government had all this under control with their foresight, now I can relax.
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
My new house in 2025:
No oil or gas fired boiler
No fossil solid fuel heater
No electric heater cos the wind stopped blowing, it's cloudy, nuclear is being frowned on. Anyway cars are taking all the eleccy.
What am I to do?
Goosedown padded clothes?
Wait a minute, if global warming is taking place this fast, the house won't need heating. Brilliant, I knew the government had all this under control with their foresight, now I can relax.
If you built a new house in 2025 to pasiv house standards it should not require any heating anyway. Your own body heat would be sufficient to keep the house warm.
 

HatsOff

Member
Mixed Farmer
Just about to do a stable conversion, very small.
I want ground source, plumber is doing all he can to persuade me to put in gas.
May be a different discussion this week.
Hah! Quite. I went for air source as I couldn't justify the extra for ground source. If you are doing the conversion from scratch you might be better putting more money into insulation and going air source.
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
I want ground source, plumber is doing all he can to persuade me to put in gas.
A friend wanted oil and his plumber went a long way to persuade him to have lpg including having to fit a tank.
Turned out the plumber's certificate was only for gas not oil.
It may well be that your plumber doesn't have any experience with ground source.
 
My new house in 2025:
No oil or gas fired boiler
No fossil solid fuel heater
No electric heater cos the wind stopped blowing, it's cloudy, nuclear is being frowned on. Anyway cars are taking all the eleccy.
What am I to do?
Goosedown padded clothes?
Wait a minute, if global warming is taking place this fast, the house won't need heating. Brilliant, I knew the government had all this under control with their foresight, now I can relax.
You could have a connection to our new geo heat main, direct from Palma
 

HatsOff

Member
Mixed Farmer
Electric is the future. Will always be needed and lots of ways of generating it, including insitu. Just need a government that pulls its finger out and builds more nuclear capacity.
 

Winch Farming

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Hampshire
Just been talking to the PPA chaps at New Stream Renewables again. Very helpful and knowledgeable as always. Looks like energy pricing stabilising albeit at some incredibly strong levels. Again some useful updates on their website :


My neighbour has just locked in a solar PPA via them out to 2023. Difficult call but i suppose best not to be too greedy. I dread to think what my import will look like when out of contract next year.
 

Wisconsonian

Member
Trade
what would it cost to bring a 1800s farm house up to Pasiv standards?
Lift the chimney cap up and push a new house underneath it. The chimney cap will be decorative only on the passive house.

There's a lot you can do to an old house, depending on what you're willing/able to destroy in the process. Passive house standard is virtually impossible with any remodel. Even a year old house.
 

AlexMcGowan

Member
Location
Cheshire
These last few months seem to have scared quite a few land and asset holders, we're finding more and more are seeking sleeved PPA's directly with generators to protect themselves from the wholesale market, whilst also ticking their carbon reduction boxes. We're currently working for a number of large scale AD plants in negotiating a deal of £116/MWh over a 2 year term, with an extremely well known off-taker purchasing the energy, so still deals to be done despite the wholesale dip.
 

Winch Farming

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Hampshire
These last few months seem to have scared quite a few land and asset holders, we're finding more and more are seeking sleeved PPA's directly with generators to protect themselves from the wholesale market, whilst also ticking their carbon reduction boxes. We're currently working for a number of large scale AD plants in negotiating a deal of £116/MWh over a 2 year term, with an extremely well known off-taker purchasing the energy, so still deals to be done despite the wholesale dip.
Give New Stream a call. We were looking at pricing over £150 quid.... they are the PPA experts. Speak to Jamie or Charles.
 

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