Disco 4, Volvo XC90 or Skoda Kodiak

Benr

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Location
North Devon
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Cowabunga

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Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Looks good.

Check out the new engine for oil leaks and top end noise and turbo's functioning carefully. LR do not provide complete exchange engines to replace seized ones under warranty. Not even on ones less than eighteen months old in my third party experience. They supply short motors where the heads, turbos, emission and electrical ancillaries all have to be swapped over to the new block, crank and pistons. This means that a whole lot is reliant on the workmanship of the mechanic doing the job and their ability to assess any possible further damage, to for instance the valvegear and turbos. Oil and fuel leaks can be an issue as well. Not saying that any issues will be present on any particular vehicle but I know of two out of about half a dozen that have had such issues. They were rectified in due course but it left the owner with rather less confidence in the vehicle than was comfortable. Perfectly naturally of course.
 

Sheepykid

Member
Looks good.

Check out the new engine for oil leaks and top end noise and turbo's functioning carefully. LR do not provide complete exchange engines to replace seized ones under warranty. Not even on ones less than eighteen months old in my third party experience. They supply short motors where the heads, turbos, emission and electrical ancillaries all have to be swapped over to the new block, crank and pistons. This means that a whole lot is reliant on the workmanship of the mechanic doing the job and their ability to assess any possible further damage, to for instance the valvegear and turbos. Oil and fuel leaks can be an issue as well. Not saying that any issues will be present on any particular vehicle but I know of two out of about half a dozen that have had such issues. They were rectified in due course but it left the owner with rather less confidence in the vehicle than was comfortable. Perfectly naturally of course.
I take it they only cover the engine failure under warranty? Or is it a recall type of problem.
 

Benr

Member
Location
North Devon
Looks good.

Check out the new engine for oil leaks and top end noise and turbo's functioning carefully. LR do not provide complete exchange engines to replace seized ones under warranty. Not even on ones less than eighteen months old in my third party experience. They supply short motors where the heads, turbos, emission and electrical ancillaries all have to be swapped over to the new block, crank and pistons. This means that a whole lot is reliant on the workmanship of the mechanic doing the job and their ability to assess any possible further damage, to for instance the valvegear and turbos. Oil and fuel leaks can be an issue as well. Not saying that any issues will be present on any particular vehicle but I know of two out of about half a dozen that have had such issues. They were rectified in due course but it left the owner with rather less confidence in the vehicle than was comfortable. Perfectly naturally of course.

Thanks for that - will have a good look.
I have got a copy of an email giving it 2 years warranty on the replacement engine and ancillary parts from June this year, so effectively another 18 months so hopefully any issues will be covered. It’s also got extended warranty on the rest of the vehicle until 7th of Jan, so a bit of time to sort out any other potential issues.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
I take it they only cover the engine failure under warranty? Or is it a recall type of problem.
It's a warranty job with some goodwill payment if dealer serviced outside of the three year warranty. Otherwise its probably a £12,000 replacement engine job at the owner's expense.
Anyone had a seized engine at 50,000 mile plus and maybe five years of age here? I'm sure I remember more than one poster having this issue at higher mileage. Did LR contribute?

I do vaguely remember someone who had one fail at around that mileage and LR customer services telling him that he's had a good life out of the vehicle and couldn't see what he was complaining about, which wouldn't surprise me one little bit coming from LR.
Years ago I had a brake locking issue with a brand new Range Rover. The dealer tried to rectify it several times under warranty then decided to get the LR area service manager to have a look at it. Instead of suggesting remedies, and despite absolutely acknowledging the problem of rear brakes locking up during hard braking [before abs brakes were fitted], to the dealer and my astonishment he said the LR had spent enough money on the vehicle and that no further warranty work would be authorised. Luckily the dealer was more down to earth and at that time he could get away with booking further work down to other Range Rovers that were also under warranty. They did actually get it to work fine the next time and it remained fine for another 90,000 miles. However LR lost my respect and loyalty then and there and the next eight four wheel drive vehicles I bought were not from LR. In the words of Rod Stewart live on stage the other day [about the BBC banning his record], f**k 'em!
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Thanks for that - will have a good look.
I have got a copy of an email giving it 2 years warranty on the replacement engine and ancillary parts from June this year, so effectively another 18 months so hopefully any issues will be covered. It’s also got extended warranty on the rest of the vehicle until 7th of Jan, so a bit of time to sort out any other potential issues.
Should be fine then. The extended warranty on the base vehicle is over more or less. See if a dealer has a plan to further extend the period by a couple of years to give you full piece of mind. It won't be cheap [if available] but neither is any repair to anything these days.
 

br jones

Member
It's a warranty job with some goodwill payment if dealer serviced outside of the three year warranty. Otherwise its probably a £12,000 replacement engine job at the owner's expense.
Anyone had a seized engine at 50,000 mile plus and maybe five years of age here? I'm sure I remember more than one poster having this issue at higher mileage. Did LR contribute?

I do vaguely remember someone who had one fail at around that mileage and LR customer services telling him that he's had a good life out of the vehicle and couldn't see what he was complaining about, which wouldn't surprise me one little bit coming from LR.
Years ago I had a brake locking issue with a brand new Range Rover. The dealer tried to rectify it several times under warranty then decided to get the LR area service manager to have a look at it. Instead of suggesting remedies, and despite absolutely acknowledging the problem of rear brakes locking up during hard braking [before abs brakes were fitted], to the dealer and my astonishment he said the LR had spent enough money on the vehicle and that no further warranty work would be authorised. Luckily the dealer was more down to earth and at that time he could get away with booking further work down to other Range Rovers that were also under warranty. They did actually get it to work fine the next time and it remained fine for another 90,000 miles. However LR lost my respect and loyalty then and there and the next eight four wheel drive vehicles I bought were not from LR. In the words of Rod Stewart live on stage the other day [about the BBC banning his record], fudge 'em!
A aquantance of mine ,has just bought 40 of the v6 engines brand new in the box from JLR,charges 6500 +vat for a engine and fitting
 

Benr

Member
Location
North Devon
It's a warranty job with some goodwill payment if dealer serviced outside of the three year warranty. Otherwise its probably a £12,000 replacement engine job at the owner's expense.
Anyone had a seized engine at 50,000 mile plus and maybe five years of age here? I'm sure I remember more than one poster having this issue at higher mileage. Did LR contribute?

I do vaguely remember someone who had one fail at around that mileage and LR customer services telling him that he's had a good life out of the vehicle and couldn't see what he was complaining about, which wouldn't surprise me one little bit coming from LR.
Years ago I had a brake locking issue with a brand new Range Rover. The dealer tried to rectify it several times under warranty then decided to get the LR area service manager to have a look at it. Instead of suggesting remedies, and despite absolutely acknowledging the problem of rear brakes locking up during hard braking [before abs brakes were fitted], to the dealer and my astonishment he said the LR had spent enough money on the vehicle and that no further warranty work would be authorised. Luckily the dealer was more down to earth and at that time he could get away with booking further work down to other Range Rovers that were also under warranty. They did actually get it to work fine the next time and it remained fine for another 90,000 miles. However LR lost my respect and loyalty then and there and the next eight four wheel drive vehicles I bought were not from LR. In the words of Rod Stewart live on stage the other day [about the BBC banning his record], fudge 'em!

Our local LR dealer said this morning that it was showing as £12k warranty claim for the engine - so presumably that must have been done under the extended warranty and it had a complete engine?
 

Roy_H

Member
It's a warranty job with some goodwill payment if dealer serviced outside of the three year warranty. Otherwise its probably a £12,000 replacement engine job at the owner's expense.
Anyone had a seized engine at 50,000 mile plus and maybe five years of age here? I'm sure I remember more than one poster having this issue at higher mileage. Did LR contribute?

I do vaguely remember someone who had one fail at around that mileage and LR customer services telling him that he's had a good life out of the vehicle and couldn't see what he was complaining about, which wouldn't surprise me one little bit coming from LR.
Years ago I had a brake locking issue with a brand new Range Rover. The dealer tried to rectify it several times under warranty then decided to get the LR area service manager to have a look at it. Instead of suggesting remedies, and despite absolutely acknowledging the problem of rear brakes locking up during hard braking [before abs brakes were fitted], to the dealer and my astonishment he said the LR had spent enough money on the vehicle and that no further warranty work would be authorised. Luckily the dealer was more down to earth and at that time he could get away with booking further work down to other Range Rovers that were also under warranty. They did actually get it to work fine the next time and it remained fine for another 90,000 miles. However LR lost my respect and loyalty then and there and the next eight four wheel drive vehicles I bought were not from LR. In the words of Rod Stewart live on stage the other day [about the BBC banning his record], fudge 'em!
I know a guy who worked for LR for 5 years. He said in that time he just couldn't believe how many warranty claims they had, usually the more expensive the cars the more problems they had!
 

Kildare

Member
Location
Kildare, Ireland
I am no Skoda snob, we currently have a Superb which we bought new in 2014 and it has been absolutely faultless. But as mentioned above I am not that taken with the look of the Kodiak and if we are going to spend that sort of money I want to take some enjoyment from it.
Found a 2016 Disco 4 with 39000 miles full Land Rover service history and under their extended warranty until Mid Jan. The engine seized 6000 miles ago! So it has got a new engine put in by Land Rover under warranty. I have checked all this out with our local dealer and it all tally’s with the LR IT system - £23,750 getting tempted!!
First Engine lasting 33000 thousand miles. What makes you think that the next in will last longer.
 

Timbo

Member
Location
Gods County
As another potential D4 owner, it worries me somewhat that a LR 70,000 miler is just as potentially likely to go pop as much as a 130,000 mile engine is. Coming from a Japanese 3.0 litre that's going strong at 165.000 miles.
 

HAM135

Member
Arable Farmer
I am no Skoda snob, we currently have a Superb which we bought new in 2014 and it has been absolutely faultless. But as mentioned above I am not that taken with the look of the Kodiak and if we are going to spend that sort of money I want to take some enjoyment from it.
Found a 2016 Disco 4 with 39000 miles full Land Rover service history and under their extended warranty until Mid Jan. The engine seized 6000 miles ago! So it has got a new engine put in by Land Rover under warranty. I have checked all this out with our local dealer and it all tally’s with the LR IT system - £23,750 getting tempted!!
I would haggle hard on that,that would have to be a franchised dealer with warranty for that money,just changed ours this week,a few months older and a little more mls but full Lrsh, warranty and immaculate,ended up getting £16500 for it which was a couple of hundred quid more than we buy any car were offering,tried a good few dealers for our D5 and they were all offering between £15-16k for our trade in.
 
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Benr

Member
Location
North Devon
First Engine lasting 33000 thousand miles. What makes you think that the next in will last longer.
I know, I know....heart has ruled head, but f**k it you only live once. I have done my homework and the risk is very small, our local Land Rover main dealer in North Devon who would have sold a lot of these has only had it happen to 3 and Land Rover have stood behind all of them and our local Land Rover specialist who look after a lot of them haven’t had any.
 

Benr

Member
Location
North Devon
I would haggle hard on that,that would have to be a franchised dealer with warranty for that money,just changed ours this week,a few months older and a little more mls but full Lrsh, warranty and immaculate,ended up getting £16500 for it which was a couple of hundred quid more than we buy any car were offering,tried a good few dealers for our D5 and they were all offering between £15-16k for our trade in.
Not sure the difference then - the We Buy Any car on this one is £23,750 and from what else I have seen around main dealers that would be a fair bit more.
 

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