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Does size matter?

Taxis for humans are effectively self-loading but until they are also able to detect and clean up vomit on a Saturday night then self driving taxis will have severe limitations.
The locating of collection and delivery addresses ( and specific areas within those addresses) for loading and unloading will be much further away in time than some of these techies seem to imagine.
Far from all lorry movements are from Ports to RDC's or RDC's to retail outlets.
 

digger64

Member
I read it as spraying x5 at £2. Could be wrong, usually am.
2 x £5 / acre , this year only one spray pass atm due to later drilling ,dramatically lower rainfall and less disease pressure lower yield expected but it doesnt look to bad so may suprise after todays rain at grain fill stage
 

digger64

Member
Pretty low I think , only spraying twice , and £30 to plough seed and roll Is very cheap , will give you that to come and do mine
Less this year as decided not to plough used sumo instead very compacted after cows and dare not turn it over as would create horses heads and loose moisture in unseasonable warm dry weather this spring looked a mess drilling into spread muck but seems to have paid off (did wonder what I was doing at the time ! ) got a crop any way
 

New Puritan

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Location
East Sussex
How long have computers been invented, to have one that could compete with a human brain it would have to be the size of planet earth , please dont make me laugh if you think your stupid bot can replace one of my straw warriors drivers

You say that, but it's a gradual thing. Think of a vehicle from 50 years ago compared to one now. There's simple(ish) things like automatic gear boxes and power steering. Then you have parking sensors, and cars with the ability to park themselves. Sat navs. So now, a vehicle can already do a lot of things the driver used to have to do / think about.

They are trialling automated / connected vehicles already. That's where lorries "brigade" themselves in convoy on motorway journeys, slip streaming each other and being guided by computers.

It's not to say every vehicle on every journey will be like this, but it's coming for at least some of them. The thing is, the computer does not have to compete with the human brain, it just needs to do whatever particular task the human brain has found itself doing in that application.
 

Derrick Hughes

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Location
Ceredigion
You say that, but it's a gradual thing. Think of a vehicle from 50 years ago compared to one now. There's simple(ish) things like automatic gear boxes and power steering. Then you have parking sensors, and cars with the ability to park themselves. Sat navs. So now, a vehicle can already do a lot of things the driver used to have to do / think about.

They are trialling automated / connected vehicles already. That's where lorries "brigade" themselves in convoy on motorway journeys, slip streaming each other and being guided by computers.

It's not to say every vehicle on every journey will be like this, but it's coming for at least some of them. The thing is, the computer does not have to compete with the human brain, it just needs to do whatever particular task the human brain has found itself doing in that application.
But most farmers would be planning around ten tasks at any one time
 

Pasty

Member
Location
Devon
Imagine a world where auto steering lorries were the only vehicles allowed on motorways during the hours of 1am and 5am.
Probably could be confined to one lane with the other 2 open for cars although I suppose logically that would be the 'slow' lane which blocks access to the hard shoulder unless spacing was very wide.
 
Probably could be confined to one lane with the other 2 open for cars although I suppose logically that would be the 'slow' lane which blocks access to the hard shoulder unless spacing was very wide.

One lane simply couldn't take the trunking traffic from the parcel companies national hubs around Birmingham - the convoys of double decked rigs of Royal Mail, Parcel force, TNT, UK Mail, DPD, DHL, et al along with Supermarket wagons etc in the early hours have to be seen and experienced to be appreciated [emoji6]
 
I wonder how an autonomous vehicle would cope with the following scenario ?

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Posted Today, 11:09 AM 28/06/2017

Unless you wanted to stay on M6 last night you were inconvienced to f@ck.......

Manchester to Tooting last night

junc 8 M6 for M5 CLOSED

Junc 4A M6 for M42 CLOSED

Junc 1 M6 for M1 CLOSED "
 
I wonder how an autonomous vehicle would cope with the following scenario ?

"
Posted Today, 11:09 AM 28/06/2017

Unless you wanted to stay on M6 last night you were inconvienced to f@ck.......

Manchester to Tooting last night

junc 8 M6 for M5 CLOSED

Junc 4A M6 for M42 CLOSED

Junc 1 M6 for M1 CLOSED "

I would say that the route would be updated remotely, along with GPS data, so the autonomous vehicle would carry on and avoid any problem/road closed areas.
 
Just imagine if there was a way to make one or two people in a really big unit, able to pull ten, twenty, 60, 80 trailers along at one time for the main part of the journey.... They could have a simple guidance system that could double up as a smooth running surface, something tough... like steel that didn't need too much maintenance. They could trundle up and down the country dropping off and picking up containers which could then be loaded onto trucks for the last leg of the journey.
Still need a few folk on the ground to make everything run smoothly and to do a bit of maintenance on it, but that would free up a bit of road space... Hell you could even put seats in some of the containers and ferry people about too!
 
Just imagine if there was a way to make one or two people in a really big unit, able to pull ten, twenty, 60, 80 trailers along at one time for the main part of the journey.... They could have a simple guidance system that could double up as a smooth running surface, something tough... like steel that didn't need too much maintenance. They could trundle up and down the country dropping off and picking up containers which could then be loaded onto trucks for the last leg of the journey.
Still need a few folk on the ground to make everything run smoothly and to do a bit of maintenance on it, but that would free up a bit of road space... Hell you could even put seats in some of the containers and ferry people about too!

Ha, ha ...... it's called a railway.

But then it was said tongue in cheek [emoji41]
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
Ho ho ho... Now you're talkin(y)... What about the smoke from the coal fires... Might be a problem, unless you could get some pretty good ventilation going...

Build another hold, and pipe the emissions into that so they don't escape. I'll call it....Clean Coal Technology!

Or you could take all the gubbins people throw away.....charge them to accept it and then burn it at a really high temperature......and you've got free energy! It's "green" and "renewable" too! It's the future mind!
 

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