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Drought

Wheat dying due to the same reasons is not normal for here, I am unsure if we could even get a cactus to grow here, too wet/cold normally.
I am sure if we ever had the sort of drought you boys are getting the whole country would be in meltdown with I suspect civil unrest.
sorry you are over stating our importance in the UK we would pay a bit more and just import the food. the meltdown in global food shortages will be in countries where the price of food matters.
 

Chae1

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Location
Aberdeenshire
FFS - you softcock whinging whining pansies wouldn't know what had hit you or how to cope if you ever faced a REAL drought . . .
When the cactus start getting moisture stressed - then you can say it's a drought

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Why do you grow cactus when they can't stand a bit of dry weather! ?

Surely you'd grow crops to suit your climate.
 

Hindsight

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Location
Lincolnshire
sorry you are over stating our importance in the UK we would pay a bit more and just import the food. the meltdown in global food shortages will be in countries where the price of food matters.


I saw a report in The Times yesterday that the price of potatoes and onions is having an effect on the Turkish election campaign ahead of tomorrows vote. We do not appreciate the importance of food costs where it is truly a significant part of a family income.
 
+ the fact the economy is in trouble,a foreign policy nobody understands. nobody has any freedom anymore and the opposition have pulled their finger out. tomorrow could be interesting particularly if like to have a secular turkey in the EU
 

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
Thats rather harsh considering the dire position farmer roy finds himself in, which is way outside the experience of most of us, even though our last 12 months has been pretty horrendous.

I think farmer Roy's worked me out by now and won't take any offence from a whingeing pom. He can give it out plenty so sure he can take it.
 

Goffer

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorkshire
If it’s still dry by the end of July then we will have a drought and an early harvest
1995 here 20mm in June July and August was so dry discs would only go in ant inch
remember that summer well. Harvest finished Aug 12th here , didn't grow rape either than . Yorks water tankered wagon after wagon load of drinking water west up m62 as reservoirs were dry .
 

Farmer Roy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
to be fair, when I am talking about it being dry here, I don't mean the usual dry conditions & extremes which we are used to and deal with as part of our everyday management.
My farming career spans about 30 years. We have 2 distinct cropping seasons a year ( warm season crops, cool season crops ). So, over about 60 cropping seasons, I have never yet missed out on planting at least something due to lack of moisture ( that's why we zero till, retain our stubble etc. Every management decision is based on conserving & storing soil moisture ). I have missed a few cropping seasons due to floods, but this season will be the first in 30 yrs or 60 seasons, that I will not plant anything at all due to dry - so, in anyones terms id say the current conditions are unprecedented

what that means is no income for at least 12 months, maybe 18 or longer. There is NO guarantee things will improve after that
 

Kiwi Pete

Member
Livestock Farmer
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This was about as dry as it gets here - it depends how much you can do to offset that lack of rainfall that counts toward successful outcomes.
And, plenty of cover, plenty of green: far from a drought here, even though it was declared a drought it was a borderline response IMO; it just protected farmers unprepared from the realities of having to pay a tax bill with reduced revenue=they learnt slower (or not at all) from the lesson that was given to us all

Levelled the playing field, if you like, which disadvantages the farmer who actually make decisions based on risks :banghead:
I was not in favour of this interference: failures are the best lessons, in reality
 

Kiwi Pete

Member
Livestock Farmer
We don't do " drought support " anymore, which, harsh as it sounds, I happen to agree with . . .
Or, nobody learns a bloody thing from it!!

I feel ya, I don't mind a bit of selection pressure, because I learn from clues - therefore enjoy successes
The main one is: don't grow anything costly enough you can't afford to lose it all.
The dry spell here cut profit from $620/ac to $320/ac - but better than a wet foot all the same.
One neighbour made a trading loss of $100/ac and the dairy farm the other side is about $300/ac in the hole :eek::eek:

With costs/risks like that, they are only here for the medium term :(
 

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