End of livestock

[Vader]

European campaign launched to 'end livestock farming'

It is the 115th European citizens' initiative since the mechanism was launched in 2012.

www.irishexaminer.com

 

[M-J-G]

The climate scare mongering mustn't be working very well.

I wish them the best if luck with their endeavors, but I think they'll have their work cut out.
These multi ideologies are generally nonsense.

 

[delilah]

I suspect this one will get more votes:

https://citizens-initiative.europa.eu/initiatives/details/2024/000002_en

 

[PSQ]

There are 448 million people in the EU, 1 million signatures is less than a quarter of 1%.
And the French wont put up with this nonsense, a tiny proportion of guilt ridden middle class vegans won’t get in the way between them and a bit of ‘cheval’. 99% of EU citizens would classify the proposal as ‘cheval merde’.

 

[melted welly]

Look at a modern potato crop, sprayed weekly for blight, aphids (seed admittedly), foliar feed, fert in the bed, water pumped on, it’s like a junkie, withdraw any of the above and it gets shaky. all these synthetic inputs bought at significant cost as the crop is so fickle. It’s addicted to synthetic inputs.

That is exactly what will happen to humans on the synthetic food. Junk food is one thing, stuff grown in vats and labs is gonna be a different league of trouble downstream.

 

[Vader]

There are 448 million people in the EU, 1 million signatures is less than a quarter of 1%.
And the French wont put up with this nonsense, a tiny proportion of guilt ridden middle class vegans won’t get in the way between them and a bit of ‘cheval’. 99% of EU citizens would classify the proposal as ‘cheval merde’.

6.6 million vegans in the EU.

 

[Vader]

Look at a modern potato crop, sprayed weekly for blight, aphids (seed admittedly), foliar feed, fert in the bed, water pumped on, it’s like a junkie, withdraw any of the above and it gets shaky. all these synthetic inputs bought at significant cost as the crop is so fickle. It’s addicted to synthetic inputs.

That is exactly what will happen to humans on the synthetic food. Junk food is one thing, stuff grown in vats and labs is gonna be a different league of trouble downstream.

Vegan fanatics don't care.
All that matters to them is end of meat eating

 

[melted welly]

Vegan fanatics don't care.
All that matters to them is end of year eating

By end of year are you suggesting even the hardcore can’t resist pigs in blankets at Christmas?!

 

[Vader]

By end of year are you suggesting even the hardcore can’t resist pigs in blankets at Christmas?!

Wtf... how auto spell change meat to year.???

 

[melted welly]

Wtf... how auto spell change meat to year.???

All part of the vegan meat cancelling conspiracy I’d say .

when I typed vat and lab grown meat earlier, it autocorrected to “cat and lab” grown meat, which would be something completely different

 

[Devil's advocate]

6.6 million vegans in the EU.

Not many then

 

[Devil's advocate]

I hate to be the person who told Bradford they could not buy lamb. There would be an uprising from Bolton to Islamabad.

 

[PSQ]

6.6 million vegans in the EU.

That leaves 441.4 million ‘non vegans’ with 6.6 million ‘vegans’ trying to control them.
It’s not very democratic when the EU lets itself be controlled by a minor vocal fringe intent on militant control of the vast majority.

 

[Devil's advocate]

That leaves 441.4 million ‘non vegans’ with 6.6 million ‘vegans’ trying to control them.
It’s not very democratic when the EU lets itself be controlled by a minor vocal fringe intent on militant control of the vast majority.

Paper tigers, it will never happen

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Wtf... how auto spell change meat to year.???

It's in on it

 

[M-J-G]

6.6 million vegans in the EU.

But they won't all be radical types, plenty don't care what others do.

 

[Vader]

But they won't all be radical types, plenty don't care what others do.

Not met a vegan who not nuts..
Vegetarians more balanced.

 

[Vader]

That leaves 441.4 million ‘non vegans’ with 6.6 million ‘vegans’ trying to control them.
It’s not very democratic when the EU lets itself be controlled by a minor vocal fringe intent on militant control of the vast majority.

Minority EU leaders been controlling the 440 mil for years...

 

[Skintagain]

Not met a vegan who not nuts..
Vegetarians more balanced.

I have met quite a few that are Decent even got one eating meat again, invited him around the farm went through the whole process and he had a lot to learn, bit of a realisation.

 

[DaveGrohl]

Funnily enough I was listening to another podcast yesterday with famous ex-vegan Lierre Keith. Vegan for 20 years and utterly wrecked her own body in the process. She had to face her own delusions and "grow up" as she said herself. Admitting that her Mum was right all along was a salutory adult moment for her. Vehemently against vegan lies now.

Her book released many years ago is apparently the go-to book to trash every single vegan argument. I haven’t read it as yet but I’ve heard her speak many times. This stuff is all ancient history for many. It’a declining after peaking around Covid. All we’re left with is vegan pressure groups and silly politicians who are believing they’re doing the right thing while being completely detached from facts.

If you haven’t heard her before it will fascinate you to hear her speak.