Ergot standards and the EU

[shakerator]

How to prepare for ergot limits in cereals for harvest 2021 - Farmers Weekly

Growers need to prepare for new regulations covering maximum limits on ergot in cereals, to avoid loads being rejected by millers and merchants from

www.fwi.co.uk

Not disputing the rationale for reducing the tolerances , & obviously we will export some grain , .....but why is zero mention made of the tiny detail that we are no longer EU members ???!

 

[DrWazzock]

Because we still have to meet their spec if we want to sell to them.

I remember in maths at school there were some thick kids. The teacher would bring them out to the front and ask them questions. Every time they got the wrong answer they got the ruler across their knuckles. They never could get the answer right because they didn’t have the means to work it out, so they got the ruler time after time. It was a cruel pointless sadistic exercise.
A lot of the new regulations that are imposed on us nowadays feel just the same. Impossible to meet but doesn’t stop them giving us a good hiding.
It’s never the plant breeders fault or those who encourage 2m strips of rubbish alongside every hedge. No, they are blameless. It’s the farmer who cops it...every time.
Rant over.

 

[shakerator]

Because we still have to meet their spec if we want to sell to them.

I remember in maths at school there were some thick kids. The teacher would bring them out to the front and ask them questions. Every time they got the wrong answer they got the ruler across their knuckles. They never could get the answer right because they didn’t have the means to work it out, so they got the ruler time after time. It was a cruel pointless sadistic exercise.
A lot of the new regulations that are imposed on us nowadays feel just the same. Impossible to meet but doesn’t stop them giving us a good hiding.
It’s never the plant breeders fault or those who encourage 2m strips of rubbish alongside every hedge. No, they are blameless. It’s the farmer who cops it...every time.
Rant over.

it reads as though these regs will be used domestically

 

[DrWazzock]

it reads as though these regs will be used domestically

i am sure they will be. UK gov won’t want to be seen as lower standard than the EU in media and public eye. What’s actually a realistic standard for the producer doesn’t matter any more.

 

[teslacoils]

So long as we remain importers of grain, then the only specs that matter are surely ours?

 

[ajd132]

Another reason store grain at a central store with excellent facilities ?

 

[Widgetone]

Another reason store grain at a central store with excellent facilities ?

Genuine question - do central stores ever reject members grain? Thinking of infestation, bunt, or high admixtures

 

[ajd132]

Genuine question - do central stores ever reject members grain? Thinking of infestation, bunt, or high admixtures

Can for bugs for sure. Not sure about bunt presumably that can be dealt with.

 

[Brisel]

Genuine question - do central stores ever reject members grain? Thinking of infestation, bunt, or high admixtures

Interesting question.

@Woldgrain Storage

 

[yellow belly]

Genuine question - do central stores ever reject members grain? Thinking of infestation, bunt, or high admixtures

Yes seen it
badly damaged grain or rocks

 

[yellow belly]

Some varieties susceptible
harder wheat class 2 or spring wheat are worst
Rialto and brimstone the worst

loading with a bucket also keeps the ergot mixed in auger or a loading bin into the middle off the load the ergot ends up at the edge of the truck Just like Osr pods or cleavers

 

[DanniAgro]

Surely they have to reject bad grain? If they didn't the same situation would arise as happened at a major buyer of wheat in Hereford, where they got a reputation for accepting any old rubbish. So that's what used to sent to them for a good few years, until they got tough and rejected anything that didn't make the grade.

 

[ajd132]

Surely they have to reject bad grain? If they didn't the same situation would arise as happened at a major buyer of wheat in Hereford, where they got a reputation for accepting any old rubbish. So that's what used to sent to them for a good few years, until they got tough and rejected anything that didn't make the grade.

They can upgrade rubbish grain. I know in 2012 when we supplied the Sainsbury’s wheat they were the only in house supermarket bakery to still use 100% British wheat because of ability to bring it up to spec.

 

[DanniAgro]

I didn't really mean the actual quality of the grain itself, more that it had rubbish, muck and mouldy grain in it.

 

[Woldgrain Storage]

Interesting question.

@Woldgrain Storage

Thanks for the tag.

We would reject for bugs, treated seed and odour (fuel, mould etc). These are non-negotiable.

Anything else (such as ergot, fusarium, high moisture, high admix, high screenings) is manageable through cleaning/blending/colour sorting.