Farm in the flood.

[Greythundercloudys]

Just seen a pic on Sun online, there is a farm in the middle of nowhere total surrounded buy flood water, it's a terrible scene, it must have been a monsoon to flood things like that, terrible.

 

[Heathland]

Flood-hit Britain braced for more rain as Boris Johnson sends in Army to help

FLOOD-RAVAGED Britain is set for more misery as ‘danger to life’ warnings are issued across already battered areas of the UK. Shocking aerial pictures of an entire farm marooned in Lin…

www.thesun.co.uk

Talking to a farm manager earlier where they have opened the flood gates south of Lincoln,they have over a 1000 ac under water but it is in the flood protection scheme and getting worse,is they won't dam the breach has the water would back up a flood Lincoln.

 

[Princess Pooper]

Just seen a pic on Sun online, there is a farm in the middle of nowhere total surrounded buy flood water, it's a terrible scene, it must have been a monsoon to flood things like that, terrible.

Probably Henry Ward's Lincolnshire which has been flooded as a result of a breach of Barlings Eau - one of those waterways which when full is several feet higher than surrounding land. Hundreds of acres under water.

River breach flooding leaves farmer cut off

More than 1,000 acres of farmland in Lincolnshire is flooded after a breach in a river bank.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[ajd132]

arent these natural flood plains? Can any amount of dredging stop this when it’s this extreme or is it a natural occurrence?

 

[som farmer]

on the somerset levels, they find any excuse they can, to avoid dredging the rivers, certainly water voles, badgers etc, are more important than flooded houses. If the rivers were dredged, the water would disperse quicker.

 

[Gill Horse]

arent these natural flood plains? Can any amount of dredging stop this when it’s this extreme or is it a natural occurrence?

Dredging probably won't cure all the problems but I can assure you that in a lot of places it would help to reduce the risk of being flooded or lessen it's effects if an area did flood.

 

[ewald]

Much of Lincolnshire depends upon the Witham emptying at low tide at Boston - when we have had this much rain it just can't happen quickly enough - therefore flood plains will be flooded either deliberately as water management or due to bank failure as has been seen at Barlings

 

[spanners and hammers]

years ago each town had council yard and the winter jobs for the men was cleaning ditches culverts etc ,,, they all gone planners have allowed building and concrete over everything ,,, farmers only have one man now no winter hedging and dyking ,, a fail hedge cutter only drops the mulch in the dykes its only to be expected and the press do not help with sh!t like it must be global warming and cows farting

 

[Hindsight]

Flood-hit Britain braced for more rain as Boris Johnson sends in Army to help

FLOOD-RAVAGED Britain is set for more misery as ‘danger to life’ warnings are issued across already battered areas of the UK. Shocking aerial pictures of an entire farm marooned in Lin…

www.thesun.co.uk

Talking to a farm manager earlier where they have opened the flood gates south of Lincoln,they have over a 1000 ac under water but it is in the flood protection scheme and getting worse,is they won't dam the breach has the water would back up a flood Lincoln.

Are you referring to the Auborn flood land?

Do you know if it is the first time the flood protection land has been flooded since it was constructed if I recall in the late 80's? I cannot recall a previous time. If I recall the landowners had the land purchased at agricultural value plus a premium, then given back to them on basis the understanding was it might be flooded at any time, but without compensation. But I may well be wrong on some or all of the detail. Please correct me. Drove past this evening and the Brant is still well up.

Pretty dire.

 

[Hindsight]

Much of Lincolnshire depends upon the Witham emptying at low tide at Boston - when we have had this much rain it just can't happen quickly enough - therefore flood plains will be flooded either deliberately as water management or due to bank failure as has been seen at Barlings

I am going to now sound like an apologist for the EA, so my apologies for that.

But just looking at the rainfall statistics for Lincolnshire is fascinating. Since the drought broke on June 11th Lincolnshire has received about 20 inches of rain give or take an inch or two depending on location. That is pretty much almost the the usual annual amount. And more recently with last weeks torrent on a farm near Lincoln where I was earlier today has recorded 300mm since September 22, so 51 days. Quite exceptional amounts.

I am nearer the south of the County where my gauge has recorded a 'mere' 250mm in that 51 day period. And up on limestone with boulder clay so our water goes away quickly into sink holes or runs off the boulder clay downhill to those below!

So taking say 250mm of rain. Area of Lincolnshire is 7000 square km. So assuming 250mm has fallen everywhere in Lincolnshire the County in 51 days has received 1.75 billion cubic metres of rainwater. And a great chunk will have to exit the county via the Grand Sluice at Boston on the low tide twice a day! Plus a few other River and drain outfalls to the sea.

Awful as it is for those affected by flooding, possibly not surprising in the circumstances. Possibly surprising how well the river levees are standing upto the strain.

 

[Rookie]

Some interesting videos took by Andrew Ward of the farm in question ( via following link. )
Amazed at the total scale of the flooding in some of the videos and feel for all concerned at what impact it will have on them and their business.
Remove if not allowed.

https://mobile.twitter.com/wheat_daddy

 

[Werzle]

And yet they keep building on or nr to flood plains. The people who are flooded at fishlake ought to have guessed by their address that it was a wet area.

 

[turbo]

It has burst at exactly the same place as it did in 2007 ,when the ea repaired it they managed to leave the bank a little bit lower there so it been a disaster waiting to happen imho

 

[yellowbelly]

And yet they keep building on or nr to flood plains.

Exactly.
North Lincolnshire Council have just passed a plan to build 2500 houses on grade 1 silt adjacent to the River Trent.
FFS, it's grade 1 silt because it was put there by the river, by a succession of......yes, you guessed it ....FLOODS.

It'll just be another accident waiting to happen. Just shows that Westminster doesn't have the monopoly of politicians that are @rseholes - we have them at local level too.

Sorry to go off topic a bit. Thoughts must go to Joe Ward and, I guess, a lot of his neighbours too, who are suffering the brunt of this current disaster.

 

[honeyend]

And yet they keep building on or nr to flood plains. The people who are flooded at fishlake ought to have guessed by their address that it was a wet area.

I used to live near Fishlake, and a lot of the houses there are older properties built a couple of hundred years ago. The land was drained by Vermuyden in the 1600's and created the Isle of Axholme, which is good arable land, I can never remember it flooding.

If all the land that Vermuyden drained was allowed to flood, well alot of East Anglia, and other places would be under water, which I suppose is the point. About 3 miles away from me they have been renforcing the banks in the summer, the last major flood around here was 1947. I live near Pools Road and its low lying, well just about everywhere is at about just above sea level, but there are no pools.
It seems to me that Sheffield and Doncasters flood protection was deemed more important than a small village, its easy to quantify the economics benifit of a town or city. Its a lot harder for individual farmers and householders to apply pressure, once the water has gone, well you do not see inside the house and the destruction and the land just looks like land, its only when you get close up you can see the dead crops and the sludge.

So if you are going to make your case for better drainage and maintanance now is the time, while the BBC are still interested.

 

[Princess Pooper]

Are you referring to the Auborn flood land?

Do you know if it is the first time the flood protection land has been flooded since it was constructed if I recall in the late 80's? I cannot recall a previous time. If I recall the landowners had the land purchased at agricultural value plus a premium, then given back to them on basis the understanding was it might be flooded at any time, but without compensation. But I may well be wrong on some or all of the detail. Please correct me. Drove past this evening and the Brant is still well up.

Pretty dire.

No, Henry Ward's farmstead surrounded by water is due to a breach of the levees of the Barlings Eau. The Till flood storage area was brought into use last week though, which I think is the area to which you are referring.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1192498269731078146

https://twitter.com/x/status/1193568583755931649

 

[ajd132]

What I still don’t understand is if the river is always higher than the farmland, and there’s a huge amount of rain, surely this is to be expected occasionally? I’m not trying to be insensitive just understand what’s going on in these places.

 

[honeyend]

Oh its expected, its just in someplaces the banks are maintained and built up or and others not. It depends what area is seen as essential.

 

[Princess Pooper]

What I still don’t understand is if the river is always higher than the farmland, and there’s a huge amount of rain, surely this is to be expected occasionally? I’m not trying to be insensitive just understand what’s going on in these places.

The banks are not supposed to breach though are they? This isn't overtopping, this is a breach like the one that flooded Wainfleet. The difference is because there are few houses affected this time the EA are not bothering to do anything about it, as I understand they have not even been in touch with the farmer.

 

[ajd132]

The banks are not supposed to breach though are they? This isn't overtopping, this is a breach like the one that flooded Wainfleet. The difference is because there are few houses affected this time the EA are not bothering to do anything about it, as I understand they have not even been in touch with the farmer.

It sounds like they are using the farm as dumping ground and not even contacting him, not good.