Farm shop in shipping containers

[BAC]

How long can a field shelter sit there before being moved and what does move mean?

I doubt the council would even know

 

[BAC]

Half the problem with planning and people getting in trouble is that you can’t understand what you need and you can’t approach the council for answer due to cut backs

 

[tullah]

I doubt the council would even know

I agree. But if it were to crop up need to know where we stand.

 

[George from SJM Planning]

How long can a field shelter sit there before being moved and what does move mean?

All depends on the local authority but in the cases I have had dealings with the Enforcement Officer said that the shelter should be removed from the field when there was no animals in the field.

 

[tullah]

Half the problem with planning and people getting in trouble is that you can’t understand what you need and you can’t approach the council for answer due to cut backs

And the council are so busy they don't call you or email you back. Whole country is on hold because of the planners.

 

[George from SJM Planning]

that clears it up a lot! Thank you very much George for the clarity on the subject. Did think it was full planning, just didn’t know what I would have to apply for.

With change of use,Is it based on that one area of land? So say a quarter of an acre, is that all that is classed as change of use?

You would just draw a red line around the area you wanted to change the use of, doesn't need to be the whole parcel of land.

 

[tullah]

All depends on the local authority but in the cases I have had dealings with the Enforcement Officer said that the shelter should be removed from the field when there was no animals in the field.

So definitely need a sheep pottering around.

 

[BrianV]

Coming in a bit late on this and sorry @BAC I have seen your PM but mad busy at work and home.
I believe there is a misconception in this thread that a buildings permanency is solely down to its construction method. In planning terms it is irrespective of the building has foundations or is on wheels or anything like that - it is all down to the intended use.
If @BAC intends on siting it there for a significant period of time, say more than 6 months then it is a building - there is no fixed timescale in black and white bit 6 months for a container by the roadside would be a good guide I reckon.
So, assuming it is going to have some form of permanency then it will need some form of permission. As I understand it if the farm shop is selling products produced solely on the host holding then it can be considered an agricultural building and then Prior Approval under Part 6 is required just as any other agricultural building. BUT, if it is supplying products produced off site then it needs change of use of the land and full planning permission for a retail unit.
As it is adjacent to a road it would assumably be within 25m of the highway so Part 6 would be a no go anyway so full planning would be needed for the agricultural building anyway.

If you have 6 months make it portable & give it a try, after 6 months then decide whether it will be worth carrying on or not, you don't want to go through the expense of planning then find it simply doesn't pay, if it does well apply for planning if not you have a moveable saleable asset.

 

[Fendt516profi]

Only works if you actually move them. There are cases where field shelters on skids have seen enforcement action because they were never moved.

If it was trailer mounted and taken to the end of the farm drive and back every night would it need any permission assuming only selling home produced produce

 

[George from SJM Planning]

And the council are so busy they don't call you or email you back. Whole country is on hold because of the planners.

If it was trailer mounted and taken to the end of the farm drive and back every night would it need any permission assuming only selling home produced produce

No I don't believe so

 

[TheTallGuy]

If it was trailer mounted and taken to the end of the farm drive and back every night would it need any permission assuming only selling home produced produce

It can be done that way, but you still have to jump through all the other hoops such as registering for environmental health etc.

 

[Still Farming]

Plus other rival businesses will report you for everything, plus neighbours and public!

 

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