Fertiliser price for those that miss it in Arable section

[DRC]

Livestock farmers are being properly screwed at the moment.
I would say there's two very different types of arable farmer at the moment there are those that have still got a quarter, third or maybe half of there 2021 crop to sell and they bought there fert in June or July.
Then there's the other half who sold a lot off the combine and early on for £170 a ton and have only just bought their fert

Yes it’s worth remembering that some of us do have to sell some off the combine . Anyone reading the crops price thread would think we are all selling wheat at £300 ton . In my opinion, paper trading and speculators shouldn’t be allowed in essential commodities . I usually buy fertiliser in June, but thought £280 was a big jump from the £197 I’d paid the year before so declined . I did come to my senses when it got to £350 and bought all we need then .
I can understand people not buying early as storage is an issue. If your buildings are full of livestock and fodder, where do you put fertiliser .

 

[Yale]

If not, there will be a lot of animals going for early slaughter this Spring and Summer. The first 120 units per acre may well pay somewhat with a rapid decline in viability as use increases. Many farmers will choose to just farm through it, but a large number just will not be able to afford it and to carry on producing food at this rate.

Last Monday we sold 50 texel x breeding ewe lambs and Monday there are another 50 going.

I‘m clearing out as I think money will be tight at the breeding sales.

 

[DRC]

Im cutting grazing fert, silage ground will still need 3cwt though to get the yield i aim for 15 bale/acre on young reseeds

Have you realised just how much the bales will cost you to make

 

[Bossfarmer]

Have you realised just how much the bales will cost you to make

roughly double last year?

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Clover seed is cheap

 

[willie waver]

haven't bought an ounce of fert yet, stores got exact same price as last year in the ring, so a lot of my old cows will be heading for macdonalds in the autumn

 

[willie waver]

Should have put those dairy cows on @Bossfarmer, with milk soon hitting 40ppl

is there anybody on here that thinks bossfarmer is a real farmer.....?

 

[spin cycle]

Clover seed is cheap

how much per 25kg?

 

[ridger]

is there anybody on here that thinks bossfarmer is a real farmer.....?

I have my doubts lol

 

[Werzle]

Must be like straw?

I would like to know how the tractor straddles a row which is doing 15 bales to the acre. Mine moans like f k the rows are too big on a 10 bale/acre crop

 

[Derrick Hughes]

how much per 25kg?

Just over £200 depending on veriaty

 

[aangus]

I would like to know how the tractor straddles a row which is doing 15 bales to the acre. Mine moans like f k the rows are too big on a 10 bale/acre crop

Is it possible to get 15 bales to the acre

 

[Henarar]

I would like to know how the tractor straddles a row which is doing 15 bales to the acre. Mine moans like f k the rows are too big on a 10 bale/acre crop

wouldn't want anything much wider than a haybob to row it up

 

[Henarar]

Is it possible to get 15 bales to the acre

have bailed 20/ acre contracting, young ley like sticks

 

[Werzle]

have bailed 20/ acre contracting, young ley like sticks

Corks?

 

[Courier]

yes some but most people i speak to have it, lot bought it last summer at 280

And will they not need to order again when they have used that £280 stuff ?

 

[hendrebc]

It would be very interesting to know what utilisation % of grass grown is on a lot of farms. The way I see it the moment you spend on it to grow more of it, unless you make total use of the extra production it's quite costly? I think when straw was so short/expensive a lot of farmers realised how little they can actually get away without using and I'm of the opinion the same will be of fertiliser. But that's only my opinion and its not to say its right or wrong. Edit. On grassland that is, not arable.

Set stocked or in any field over 7 days utilisation will be 50%.....
Goes up to about 60-70% on 3-4 day moves and up to 80% on 1-2 day moves and 90% if you move them more than once a day.
And you will grow more grass and the stock do better if you move your stock more.

 

[Bob the beef]

i didnt realise how bad the situation was for stock farmers till i read this, ive bn speaking mostly grain guys that got fert cheap and selling wheat now, story couldnt be more different

I’m the only fella in this valley with fert on farm. Most need to wait for store cattle to be sold before dipping their toe in the fertmarket . Any relying on chicken muck going to be disappointed as well

 

[Henarar]

Corks?

not sure what you mean ?

 

[zero]

Is it possible to get 15 bales to the acre

I can manage it if i add the first and second cut together..