Grassland Subsoilers

[sahara]

Anybody got one or use one? Are they really any good? Any tips to get the best out of them, Any particular designs or features to recommend/look out for or avoid?

As above, any info, opinions or thoughts gratefully received.

Cheers

 

[agri knives]

The Erth does great work. I have one and it sorts out a lot of ground

 

[Deutzdx3]

 

[agri knives]

Not much good on grassland without a disc.

 

[Deutzdx3]

Not much good on grassland without a disc.

Take them out for transport. They’re in the back of the truck. You can see the disc holder on the front.

 

[davedb]

I run a 4 leg erth aswell does a good job but ground conditions play the biggest part, too dry and you’ll lift big lumps of turf and leave it uneven and too wet is a waste of time as it just smears rather than breaking the pan

 

[agri knives]

I run a 4 leg erth aswell does a good job but ground conditions play the biggest part, too dry and you’ll lift big lumps of turf and leave it uneven and too wet is a waste of time as it just smears rather than breaking the pan

That is the problem with subsoiling grass land, its very hard to get the ground right , if it’s wet it’s a waste of time , and if it’s too dry it doesn’t work either. There are only a few weeks of the year that the ground is perfect to do. But when done right it’s a great job.

 

[Matthew Britton]

@le bon paysan speaks very highly of his erth if I remember rightly.

 

[ploughman1963]

@le bon paysan speaks very highly of his erth if I remember rightly.

As do I

 

[Ninjago]

Sorry for hijacking this thread but what's the difference between a grassland subsoiler and a "all the rave" low disturbance arable subsoiler?

 

[aangus]

If you go for an Erth type make sure you get the 4 legged machine, because the 3 legged one is a waste of time and fuel

 

[sahara]

I specified a grassland subsoiler because that's were I was contemplating using one.
I have already used a normal arable type Opico/Heva machine, it created quite a mess, so I was thinking of a Grassland one, with the disc in front of the leg. The idea being that one gets the lift & cracking underground but the surface is not disturbed. Aiming to emulate @davedb .

 

[Iogijones]

Mconnel Shakaretor does a good job for grasssland and brakes the soil better with the vibration.

 

[aangus]

Mconnel Shakaretor does a good job for grasssland and brakes the soil better with the vibration.

slow though

 

[benny6910]

Sorry for hijacking this thread but what's the difference between a grassland subsoiler and a "all the rave" low disturbance arable subsoiler?

Leg spacing is closer on a arable machine 500mm I think,grass are wider so they don’t lift sods up to much in older grass lays

 

[jackstor]

Makes a big difference, where the black wheel marks are wasn't done, nearest the camera was.
We’ve used a Spaldings flatlift with leading discs and packer roller for several years, does a good job.
It only really lasts a winter. We have used it in less than ideal conditions and it still helps.
We had a mastek on demo which I believe is similar to a erth. In some fields it made a perfect job and very easy to pull, but in others it would lift slabs up which caused ‘steps’ which the packer roller couldn’t put back down and sometimes it would flip the slab upside down. But I’m sure others won’t have any issues with them.
Sumo type ones are popular around us now

 

[deleted user 837354]

You need a dedicated grassland machine and it needs to be dry at depth. If you don't use the right machine and in the right conditions the field will be left rougher than a rat catchers dog and your mower man will hate you forever.