How do you manage Haulage companies?

[Andrew]

I called up about a full time HGV role with DFDS in the summer, working out of Immingham docks. £9.70/hr for the first 40 then £10.20 after that.

Have you got ADR? £22/hr pulling petrol from docks to forecourts at the moment.

 

[Farmer Roy]

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[Woldgrain Storage]

Do you also contact the farmers and keep them up to date on arrival times?

The farmers request the haulage, so are expecting a vehicle. It is up to the driver to give the farmer an arrival time, because we don't know the drivers' start times and break times, as they all set off from different locations first thing in the morning.

We did look at vehicle tracking, but it just wasn't possible with a temporary subcontracted fleet, unless we go to a smartphone app and we are not quite at the stage of all the drivers having smartphones yet.

 

[roscoe erf]

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better take that down you'll have the hse stazi after you

 

[Renaultman]

As a young man on flat 4-wheeler work you found all sorts

Delivering seed corn all handballed and loose stacked on , multi multi drop all over East Anglia. Some would wait for you and help. Some would make me tea. Some would expect me to unload and carry up to upper granaries and watch me do it

Same with coffin board deliveries. The sawmills I worked for , the yard man tried to let me know who was OK and who would be horrible. Some I had to carry round corners in the High Street so nobody saw my lorry. Others stopped their work and made a chain to move them. Almost always the little independents up North or in Midlands cities were the nicest and over time I got to know many of them

When you're a truck driver you often get treated like sh!t from management and bolshy unionised type forklift drivers who almost go out of their way to trip you up.

I'd like to think we are very reasonable at work with our approach, wide loading time window and general approach

I find you reap what you sow


On the other hand you do wonder how some drivers even get back up in to their cab they are so overweight and many have attitude or even worse they see the negative in absolutely everything

On a FB group I posted a pic of a low loader taking away some export 4-wheelers that were run and in the livery of a tent rental company in Herefordshire I knew. Now Peter and David Burgoyne were just good local family firm businessmen who farmed, worked hard on the tents and timber yard. Reg was a bit gruff but always fair. One chap posted on there how he'd driven for them a while back and it was the worst ever place. His post said much more about him than his employer

Also as a young man delivering seed corn I got quite adept at starting and operating all kinds of fork lift. Often just a mast attached to a tractor in those days. I hated handballing seed bags much preferred feed and fert.

 

[Renaultman]

Reading the trucking forum today it seems salaries aren't that great and drivers are saying there's plenty of jobs only paying 10 or 11 quid an hour basic.
Many talking about 50-60 hours a week too, so can't be restricted on hours that much?

60 - 65 hrs is pretty much a standard week, over here. In our area I would say average wage is around £10/hr I know one or 2 paying 12. I'm self employed doing relief driving and am happy with my rate. The company I do a fair bit of my work for virtually never have a driver leave. Another one on similar work is like a carousel if drivers. Trucks all top end and less than 5 years old.

 

[roscoe erf]

60 - 65 hrs is pretty much a standard week, over here. In our area I would say average wage is around £10/hr I know one or 2 paying 12. I'm self employed doing relief driving and am happy with my rate. The company I do a fair bit of my work for virtually never have a driver leave. Another one on similar work is like a carousel if drivers. Trucks all top end and less than 5 years old.

its mostly down to the guy in charge high turn over of drivers

 

[unlacedgecko]

Have you got ADR? £22/hr pulling petrol from docks to forecourts at the moment.

Yes I've ADR. And water tanker experience. But no PDP. Trying to get into fuel haulage without a PDP is virtually impossible I've found. You need to be a member of the Masons or something.

 

[quattro]

Yes I've ADR. And water tanker experience. But no PDP. Trying to get into fuel haulage without a PDP is virtually impossible I've found. You need to be a member of the Masons or something.

Pdp?

 

[Andrew]

Pdp?

Petrol Drivers Passport

 

[kiwi pom]

60 - 65 hrs is pretty much a standard week, over here. In our area I would say average wage is around £10/hr I know one or 2 paying 12. I'm self employed doing relief driving and am happy with my rate. The company I do a fair bit of my work for virtually never have a driver leave. Another one on similar work is like a carousel if drivers. Trucks all top end and less than 5 years old.

So how are they getting round the working time thing, isn't it 48 hours a week?

 

[Renaultman]

So how are they getting round the working time thing, isn't it 48 hours a week?

If you're not driving or loading it is classed as break or POA (period of availability) neither count towards your Working time directive 48 hours.
Someone will correct me if I'm wrong but from memory you can do 3 15 hour shifts and 3 13 hour shifts in a week have 24 hours off then start again but at the end of the 2nd week you need a 2 day break.

 

[PDE1]

POA is not counted as a break, 48 hour weeks are averaged over something like 17 weeks depending what the transport company decides, but sooner or later the average will catch up with you. DVSA are rigorously enforcing this now.

 

[unlacedgecko]

POA is not counted as a break, 48 hour weeks are averaged over something like 17 weeks depending what the transport company decides, but sooner or later the average will catch up with you. DVSA are rigorously enforcing this now.

POA not counted as break, but doesn’t count as work either. Only driving and other work (crossed hammers) count towards the 48hr average week.

Days take as annual leave are supposed to be counted as an 8hr work day for the purposes of the average.

 

[Renaultman]

POA is not counted as a break, 48 hour weeks are averaged over something like 17 weeks depending what the transport company decides, but sooner or later the average will catch up with you. DVSA are rigorously enforcing this now.

POA isn't break it's Period of availability, as said and doesn't count toward your WTD hours or that's what I have been led to believe in the 4 or 5 different drivers hours courses I have done for my DCPC I'm only part time anyway so rarely get anywhere near any maximums

 

[ollie989898]

I was very pleased to read JP's post. I do tend to believe that we should treat others as we would wish to be treated; this being rather easy to say but sometimes quite difficult to do. I often think that if you treat people like monkeys or some kind of serf or member of the great unwashed, in no time at all, you too will be treated in exactly the same fashion.

It's obvious there are certain hazards if a driver steps out of his vehicle in virtually any site or place of work. Most industrial or commercial premises however have signs and/or designated waiting areas for drivers to wait. Some even have designated pedestrian walkways, either delineated by yellow lines or even crash barriers or the like to help protect them from vehicle traffic.

I have worked with a number of hauliers in the past. Great people and very helpful. I relied on them in exactly the same way the majority of posters here do.

 

[kiwi pom]

POA isn't break it's Period of availability, as said and doesn't count toward your WTD hours or that's what I have been led to believe in the 4 or 5 different drivers hours courses I have done for my DCPC I'm only part time anyway so rarely get anywhere near any maximums

Thanks for the info
So these drivers maxing out their salary are probably working close to 3000 hours a year. Makes the pay look a little different when you work it out for those hours.

Being part time do you have to show/record your other working hours?

 

[Boohoo]

POA not counted as break, but doesn’t count as work either. Only driving and other work (crossed hammers) count towards the 48hr average week.

Days take as annual leave are supposed to be counted as an 8hr work day for the purposes of the average.

Annual leave is 8hrs per day, but if you take 5 consecutive days it's 48hrs. Sick days are counted in the same way.

 

[Renaultman]

POA not counted as break, but doesn’t count as work either. Only driving and other work (crossed hammers) count toward

Thanks for the info
So these drivers maxing out their salary are probably working close to 3000 hours a year. Makes the pay look a little different when you work it out for those hours.

Being part time do you have to show/record your other working hours?

Yes.

 

[Patrick JE]

Thanks for the info
So these drivers maxing out their salary are probably working close to 3000 hours a year. Makes the pay look a little different when you work it out for those hours.

Being part time do you have to show/record your other working hours?

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