How much would one charge to receive someones muck?

[Spud]

I assume you work more hours than he, because he's running his own show as well?

You need to consider if it's money, time or principle that is pulling your chain.

Hiring him the kit will create a vat nightmare

Accept the bloody muck as part payment or sell it, it's not worth bitching over.

Your other option is to buy him out of the business.

My uncle was never a part of our family farming business, he was a cattle dealer and rented his own premises. I supplied straw and mucked out, taking the muck in payment (and mixed up net, string, wrap etc)
He took water from here foc for his stock, and bought diesel from us for his wagon.
He also used our telehandler at least three times every week to put bales in feeders, lay best out or whatever. Never a hire charge or an offset as such, but he'd bring some meat at Christmas, and pay for any breakages. In his latter days, I fed his stock for him foc for 6months+

In some respects he took the mick, but if I needed anything I never had to ask twice, whatever it was. To be fair that was mutual. The man would of walked the bloody plank for me if he'd had to.

Are you going to notice a few more clock hours on the loader or a couple more spreaders of muck? Are you hell. I didn't either. Not worth falling out over.

My uncle had many sayings, one of which is this:

Ask, and I'll do anything. Tell, and I'll do nothing.

Think about that before you have your discussion.

 

[som farmer]

Its almost the exact same business model as the farms main income. Obviously on a smaller scale

Oh yes, the time to gripe was long long long ago.

It is absolutely worth the hassle of the fallout. This business has come as far as it can like this. In fact too far, daily negative impact, business is going backwards. Absolutely no doubt.

This is of course bigger than a load of muck.

@som farmer You may remember a thread I reignited about a month ago, that you had some good input in. Did result in a rather disappointing meeting between partners

sorry to hear that.

jaw jaw, is better than war war.

but if its got to that stage now, its probably to late to salvage, perhaps your cousin is thinking along the same lines as you, rather strange to work hard, at building a similar business, as the one share.

perhaps take a different attitude, and discuss dissolving the partnership, because of the issues, didn't click you were the same postee, as before.

is it worth continuing in a partnership, where there is antagonism between the partners, has to much been said already, to smooth the problems out. If you feel there is no possibility of that, you know the answer.

the only important things in life, are you, and your family, and their happiness, they cannot be expected to live with a 'bomb' hanging over them, you being that 'bomb', when things are going badly at work.

most farmers are competent people, attributes any body would want to utilise, if you left the business, so no money 'problems' making a living. But, its an enormous step to take, and you have to be sure its right for you, and your family, you need to take some serious advice, from someone you trust.

it could even be your cousin is thinking the same as you, or not. But nothing will be gained by a slanging match.

Whatever you decide, and what occurs, it is financially advantages, to keep things on a relatively amicable basis, even if extremely difficult to do so.

families are very different, all sorts of traits run through them, from love to jealousy and hatred, and you never really know which will happen, why, and when. Pm me, if you want to let off 'steam', certainly not an expert, but have come across most of the worst family traits.

but, jaw jaw, is always better than war war, if possible.

good luck.

 

[tractorsandcows]

Does the title of this thread relate to someone attempting to gather information prior to a diversification into the porn industry

 

[Bury the Trash]

Why do you say they are taking the pee?
Todays world muck has a good value, really you should be paying them to have it

with weed seed (like docks ) in it it will have a negative value.

 

[quattro]

I assume you work more hours than he, because he's running his own show as well?

You need to consider if it's money, time or principle that is pulling your chain.

Hiring him the kit will create a vat nightmare

Accept the bloody muck as part payment or sell it, it's not worth bitching over.

Your other option is to buy him out of the business.

My uncle was never a part of our family farming business, he was a cattle dealer and rented his own premises. I supplied straw and mucked out, taking the muck in payment (and mixed up net, string, wrap etc)
He took water from here foc for his stock, and bought diesel from us for his wagon.
He also used our telehandler at least three times every week to put bales in feeders, lay best out or whatever. Never a hire charge or an offset as such, but he'd bring some meat at Christmas, and pay for any breakages. In his latter days, I fed his stock for him foc for 6months+

In some respects he took the mick, but if I needed anything I never had to ask twice, whatever it was. To be fair that was mutual. The man would of walked the bloody plank for me if he'd had to.

Are you going to notice a few more clock hours on the loader or a couple more spreaders of muck? Are you hell. I didn't either. Not worth falling out over.

My uncle had many sayings, one of which is this:

Ask, and I'll do anything. Tell, and I'll do nothing.

Think about that before you have your discussion.

I like your uncles saying it’s how work, but nether thought of explaining it like that

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

Try hiring in the machinery when your partners is borrowing yours and see how that looks.

Can't you just bill him an agreed %age or fee based on use?

 

[whitefox]

By any chance,does this smallholding,involve the partners wife/girlfriend?

 

[Zippy768]

By any chance,does this smallholding,involve the partners wife/girlfriend?

Of course

 

[Zippy768]

with weed seed (like docks ) in it it will have a negative value.

You make a good point. Only ever spread our own muck.
Straw and hay used were from 3rd party

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

Of course

Is she fit

 

[BuskhillFarm]

I really don’t think it’s about how much to charge, but more of a how do I dissolve a partnership sort of thread..?

 

[som farmer]

Of course

wives make the bullets, the husbands have to fire them.

a very valid point, but doesn't distract from the main causes, just might have caused them !

 

[essexpete]

Tell them to join join this forum and we can all help you resolve the issues in this thread!!

They might be on here reading this!

 

[essexpete]

I assume you work more hours than he, because he's running his own show as well?

You need to consider if it's money, time or principle that is pulling your chain.

Hiring him the kit will create a vat nightmare

Accept the bloody muck as part payment or sell it, it's not worth bitching over.

Your other option is to buy him out of the business.

My uncle was never a part of our family farming business, he was a cattle dealer and rented his own premises. I supplied straw and mucked out, taking the muck in payment (and mixed up net, string, wrap etc)
He took water from here foc for his stock, and bought diesel from us for his wagon.
He also used our telehandler at least three times every week to put bales in feeders, lay best out or whatever. Never a hire charge or an offset as such, but he'd bring some meat at Christmas, and pay for any breakages. In his latter days, I fed his stock for him foc for 6months+

In some respects he took the mick, but if I needed anything I never had to ask twice, whatever it was. To be fair that was mutual. The man would of walked the bloody plank for me if he'd had to.

Are you going to notice a few more clock hours on the loader or a couple more spreaders of muck? Are you hell. I didn't either. Not worth falling out over.

My uncle had many sayings, one of which is this:

Ask, and I'll do anything. Tell, and I'll do nothing.

Think about that before you have your discussion.

Once the indignation for the OP's position has settled, this is probably the best advice on here.