Danllan
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Haven't we - UK taxpayers - already paid for at least the cost of a decent wall, what with all the bail-out money etc.?
How the negotiations are being managed
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JohnGalway
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What bail out, do you mean the 7bn LOAN ?
Simple answer is as follows. Pay close attention this time please as I swear I will never again explain this in here. I and others have done so fifteen zillion times already, but still the penny hasn't dropped.
The EU could do a trade deal in no time at all. EXCEPT that doing so (in fact doing any trade deal) would immediately cause the collapse of the EU as other would run for the door.
So best possible outcome will a long slow agonising deal of no significant benefit to either side.
So best send your best man to India for example to get a good trump trade deal. The fing is Mr. India will INSIST on a significant element of freedom of movement of people.
Back to square one. At least you will continue to have the best vendaloos in Europe
Did I mention somewhere that the other side of the table in a trade deal have a nasty habit of looking for a deal which is to their economic advantage and sends hoards of migrants to U.K.!!
Australia May Seek Better Deal on Visas From Post-Brexit Britain
http://bloom.bg/2lVAQCI
That word again MAY,where do you get the idea that we don't want controled migration but we will be in control ,if we don't need 100000 extra people we want have to take them that the point of giving people visa's unlike now if everyone in Europe wanted to come here there is naff all we can do about it,or do you think freedom of movement means something different.
i am glad you can still indulge in a wee bit of wishfull thinkingThe loyalists & little englanders will be paying for our wall
Danllan
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Well, there was the remarkably favourable* 'loan' and...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...-taxpayers-funded-Irelands-14bn-bail-out.html
*http://www.independent.ie/business/...t-rate-on-our-7bn-bailout-loans-26863834.html
i see enda is planning on taking the begging bowl to brussels .
without uk contributions will he find the eurocrats have become (to use an irishism) hungry hoors?
Enda's race is run. Many of our parliamentarians are encouraging him to exit ASAP! Absolutely nothing to do with any personal ambitions you understand! Quite simply in the "national interest"
Danllan
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National and party political opinions aside... it never ceases to astonish me just what a bunch of egocentric, dishonest, hypocritical tw*ts most politicians are, clearly this isn't just the case in the UK; Eire, the US, Australia, Canada, Japan, France, Germany and any other country I can think of all have their own cases too.Enda's race is run. Many of our parliamentarians are encouraging him to exit ASAP! Absolutely nothing to do with any personal ambitions you understand! Quite simply in the "national interest"
You'd think that we - in the mature first-world democracies - would have managed to exclude the undesirables, but not yet. Of course, democracy is the least worst system and I support it fully in the absence of an alternative; nonetheless, it does make me wonder...
But the same applies pretty much in corporate governance. The banking / finance industry for example in all its many forms is nothing better than a legalised highway robbery system. A one way highway to transfer wealth from workers to the very top tier of the wealthy class.
Unbridled greed is utterly rampant in so many aspects of society more often than not aided and abetted by politicians and governments of all hues.
JohnGalway
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Erm, you mean your banks messed up and to save your own economy from further contagion your government had to act.
Yes, all in Irelands interests, not
JohnGalway
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I'll happily admit you have me beat there. NI has much greater experience of using begging bowls, isn't the London funded public/civil service the biggest employer?
JohnGalway
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Enda's race is run. Many of our parliamentarians are encouraging him to exit ASAP! Absolutely nothing to do with any personal ambitions you understand! Quite simply in the "national interest"
Sooner that two faced flute is gone the better
norther irelands public expenditure just like scotlands, wales, is allocated automaticaly by the barnett formula no begging bowls required.would you like to name a country where the government is not the largest employer?
JohnGalway
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just like the eurocrats deliverI'm sure they're getting fabulous value for money for every penny too
Danllan
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Erm, you mean your banks messed up and to save your own economy from further contagion your government had to act.
Yes, all in Irelands interests, not
I'm pretty sure that the UK Government - and the BOE - allowing the corporate funding was not in the UK's national interest, far from it. But is sure as hell was in Eire's.
JohnGalway
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You're being naive there. A broken Irish economy, particularly with exposure to British banks, as well as other European banks would most certainly have had a negative effect on the British economy.
I Think the penny is finally dropping with our neighbours