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No. King George 1st - King of Great Britain and Ireland.
How to stop the unstoppable?
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No. King George 1st - King of Great Britain and Ireland.
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England fought for it for long enough and killed enough young boys over it in the past, so I guess it wants to keep it - crushed and under the thumb, which is more than the romans managed
It's the colonial equivalent of annexing a lemon. Like getting an artificial leg, only to find its attached the wrong way around.
Id love to see wee Jimmie krankie's face when the EU only let them join once they slash their spending to below English standards. See how the voters like that. Anyway, not in any way my problem.
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He lived in Scotland ?
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Not my problem either.
However, I don’t understand why so many English think Scotland so much weaker than Slovakia, Slovenia, malta ...
Talking of living standards, I had a friend from Malta whose life long ambition was to move to Britain. He made it...
And returned to Malta before the second year was out. I suppose the living standards weren’t so much lower
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M-J-G
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Why would you love to see a nation being punished for the way some of it's people vote?
That's like people saying they'd love to see the UK in trouble for leaving the EU.
To me it's just bitterness against democracy.
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Ok, I tried continuing this during the day while tractor driving which was a mistake.
I don’t see how your post makes sense as a response to my post?
My post was more about...
The Anglo-Scottish Wars (or Wars of Scottish Independence) - Historic UK
The Anglo-Scottish Wars were a series of battles between England and Scotland between 1296 and 1346, also called the Wars of Scottish Independence,
www.historic-uk.com
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Ok, I tried continuing this during the day while tractor driving which was a mistake.
I don’t see how your post makes sense as a response to my post?
My post was more about...
The Anglo-Scottish Wars (or Wars of Scottish Independence) - Historic UK
The Anglo-Scottish Wars were a series of battles between England and Scotland between 1296 and 1346, also called the Wars of Scottish Independence,
So Scotland should be forever joined to England because of some battles between noblemen almost 1000 years ago? Sorry, but that's just silly. Plenty of Scotland wasn't even involved in the fight back then, and if the English sons were stupid enough to have their blood spilled, that's there problem. If you really want to twist history, you could argue that the Union of the Crowns means that the English are ruled by the Scots (James 6 & 1 had been ruler of Scotland for 20 years before he inherited and added England to his Kingdom).
beefandsleep
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It’s for the Scots to decide as we are currently unified. If we were not and there was a vote to form a union tomorrow I would vote in favour as I love the Scots and Scotland and think our sum is many times greater than its parts.
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Yes, I do remember that irony. But,no, I don’t think your first sentence at all. I would wish Scotland all the best and as I wrote on this thread, plenty of smaller countries manage just fine, so why not
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Yes, I do remember that irony. But,no, I don’t think your first sentence at all. I would wish Scotland all the best and as I wrote on this thread, plenty of smaller countries manage just fine, so why not
Why not? Because strength comes from working and living together, and a Union that has been successful for 400+ years is worth holding on to. Sure, some of our neighbours might be out of sync with our thinking, but that's not enough to split up over.
Besides, where do you draw the border? Some parts around Berwick would have legitimate claim to be in either side of the divide, should the worst happen.
We should be taking down barriers, not putting them up.
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I wouldn’t say I even have an opinion.
I only challenge that Scotland is too small. I guess my interest comes from the splitting up of Czechoslovakia.
beefandsleep
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But if a stretch to blame her predicament on the Tories, are Scottish people not weary of all the problems being lumped on the evil Westminster Tories (boo hiss, they’re behind you, etc.)?
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Breakthru
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I am a republican and regard Royalty as our version of Disney. Funny but worth Billions to the economy. I see nothing of advantage to our democracy or constitution. I would like more control from London as would Northumberland and maybe Cumbria who alone has the same GDP as Scotland, never mind Cornwall who don't regard themselves as English.
I don't see the need for the hard break which will only do massive harm to Scotland while damaging England but to a much lesser extent.
Van der Lyen said the cost of Brexit was England losing NI. See where that got the failed bimbo along with all her other decisions. Usual Civil Service promotion, moved up the hill out of the way until they get to the top and prove how crap they really are.
Wee Burnie (Nic) is not interested in Business she just thinks money grows on trees or there is a golden goose hovering about just for her and her acolytes.
Unless somebody runs me some different numbers I can only foresee economic disaster for the next couple of generations till we beg to get back. The EU would use us as a revenge on Brexit but would like in the case of Greece certainly be less than generous.
At the last referendum I moved my business account to England and living on the Border would have no problem moving what is a very successful internet business expansion a few miles south. In what is a relatively small social circle A high percentage of both active and retired business people here think just the same way.
I don't see the need for the hard break which will only do massive harm to Scotland while damaging England but to a much lesser extent.
Van der Lyen said the cost of Brexit was England losing NI. See where that got the failed bimbo along with all her other decisions. Usual Civil Service promotion, moved up the hill out of the way until they get to the top and prove how crap they really are.
Wee Burnie (Nic) is not interested in Business she just thinks money grows on trees or there is a golden goose hovering about just for her and her acolytes.
Unless somebody runs me some different numbers I can only foresee economic disaster for the next couple of generations till we beg to get back. The EU would use us as a revenge on Brexit but would like in the case of Greece certainly be less than generous.
At the last referendum I moved my business account to England and living on the Border would have no problem moving what is a very successful internet business expansion a few miles south. In what is a relatively small social circle A high percentage of both active and retired business people here think just the same way.
ollie989898
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No, it's just we are fed up of the Anti-English rhetoric spouted by Scottish politicians. Stay or go, I think the bulk of us are past caring. Plenty of us in other regions of the UK have the same gripe regarding how Westminster doesn't recognise us or do anything for our communities. But we realise that London is where the money is made. It ends there and we are relatively happy with our lot.
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It’s an aside, but what I find particularly irritating about some politicians are their attempts to bring their opponents down over matters that aren’t in any way connected with their main political ideology. So we get constant muck raking over minor legal technicalities because they hope to find something to jam a spanner in the works. It’s the lowest form of opposition in my view when you have run out of valid or credible political vision or ideology.
Yes I don’t like particularly like Nicola Sturgeons plans but fight her policies not the woman. Show us your credible alternative and stop the petty personal attacks. Or have we lost sight of the credible alternative?
Yes I don’t like particularly like Nicola Sturgeons plans but fight her policies not the woman. Show us your credible alternative and stop the petty personal attacks. Or have we lost sight of the credible alternative?
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All legitimate points of view within the thread.
BUT, that doesn't see to be dampening any of the independence movement. So do we just continue with the current way of thinking - have Boris visit a couple times a year to bluster and say aren't we all happy. Give Prince Wullie a new title to make Scotland feel included.
Or do we have to do something more constitutionally radical?
BUT, that doesn't see to be dampening any of the independence movement. So do we just continue with the current way of thinking - have Boris visit a couple times a year to bluster and say aren't we all happy. Give Prince Wullie a new title to make Scotland feel included.
Or do we have to do something more constitutionally radical?
Danllan
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Or he found that there was an effective Criminal Justice System and independent Judiciary.Not my problem either.
However, I don’t understand why so many English think Scotland so much weaker than Slovakia, Slovenia, malta ...
Talking of living standards, I had a friend from Malta whose life long ambition was to move to Britain. He made it...
And returned to Malta before the second year was out. I suppose the living standards weren’t so much lower
caveman
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Does that hold for the electorate?
And how would the electorate know unless those "in the know" raise issues?
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Or he found that there was an effective Criminal Justice System and independent Judiciary.
Don’t think so. Probably more to do with living in Fleckney
. Seriously, when they had us around for dinner I was just thinking W T F, but then, I’ve never been to Malta