I reeeally need some advice!!!

[MidwestFarmer]

Hello

 

[Courier]

Whatever you do make sure that you get that agronomy qualification ......but there may be other ways than a 4 years masters degree.
Talk to couple of local agronomists and see if there organisation has some other route to the BASIS certification nowadays.
My godson left school after GCSE and became an apprentice on his father's (tenanted) farm and also shadowed their agronomist and studied for his BASIS.
It wasn't quick and it wasn't easy but he got there in the end, he had always had entrepreneurial leanings and that served him well.
That route may not be open nowadays but with ingenuity you may well be able to find a way through.
Many young men go straight from school to Uni. and come out with a good degree but little practical ability.
My son-in-law took the other route and worked (unhappily) in his family's building firm until he was 25 and has now entered Uni doing a masters an unrelated subject as a mature student.
All is not lost if you don't follow the conventional "A level - degree" route.

 

[Ukjay]

Please do not take this the wrong way, but your post reads that because you cant afford land etc, it could be seen as you trying to direct your uncle maybe in your favour here.
Additionally, you have not stated if the property / land is owned or rented.

This is not really a decision for you to call imho, as clearly he has family (sibling), and also maybe brothers or sisters by your mention of him being your uncle.
If he has brothers or sisters, then they may be joint owners of said property with a say in what happens etc, or the daughter may decide to sell up as it would be her decision if she is the only child.

 

[GTB]

As above, I read your post as saying what's the best way to convince my uncle to hand me the farm rather than give it to his daughter.

 

[hindmaist]

whatever you do,don't end up thirty years from now with no home,no job and no pension.

 

[suffolksmallholder]

Get on with your degree. Make a life for YOURSELF. There's plenty of opportunities out there that will arrive and you'll be thinking mmm, I'll do this for a while. Don't get involved in the 'I wish' situation.
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[Grouse]

+1,

I am also sure your uncle has already worked out what he is going to do...

 

[czechmate]

You should of married your cousin.

 

[An Gof]

I will be a little more blunt. Your uncle has an only daughter. Get real, he isn't going to leave the farm to you over his daughter, remember she is "Daddy's Girl". Get your qualification and make your own way.
Once qualified you might offer your services as a working farm manager to your uncle as he ages if he decides to retain the farm.

 

[Tarw Coch]

Hopefully your uncle is smart enough to know what his nephew is like and will come to the right decision.

 

[banjo]

Don't waste your life waiting for something that might not happen. Help there as much as you can, but it will go to his daughter probably. Find your own way in life and work upto owning your own farm if you want it that bad, it will happen.
One mistake I made when younger was not getting enough experience on other farms, arable, milking, and things I don't know a lot about. I'm sure it would of helped me decide what type of farming I wanted to do, I'd always fancied working on an arable farm, quite sad I didn't do it.

 

[sheep&cows&stuff]

I find most of the above replies particularly harsh. Lots of people would have already tried to 'con' the uncle to leave them the land over the daughter, but the OP has thought about it and came seeking advice. This makes me think that he is not out for just himself, but he indeed wants to find an amicable solution.

He did not say that he wasn't willing to pay/work off.come to some sort of arrangement.

Surely the farm would be better with him than be sold on the open market should said daughter not want to take the reins?

My advice to the OP would be to talk to the DAUGHTER first and find out what she intends to do, so that he is not stepping on her toes. If she genuinely thinks she will sell the farm, then why not work out a deal with her? If she wants to farm it then back off immediately.

 

[chipchap]

If your uncle owns the farm the best you can realistically hope for is a tenancy.
If he is a tenant on 1986 act you cannot as a nephew get a succession tenancy. There is an outside chance the landlord may give you an FBT on favourable terms, but that would probably be worse than a lifetime prison sentence.

 

[Dman2]

Surely this is up to his daughter to sort out

 

[multi power]

Surely this is up to his daughter to sort out

What has it got to do with her? It's not her farm is it ?

 

[Pieces_of_Eight]

What happens if the Uncle gets to 60 years old and wants to sell up and spend it all on fast cars & whisky?

 

[Water Wheel]

I can’t even sort my own family affairs out so I am not going to try to sort some one else’s!

But here I go anyway!

As has been said, make your own life first, help on the farm all you can, talk to the daughter and your Uncle, but don’t rely on anything. There are plenty of sons who have wasted a big chunk of life waiting for a farm that never came. If things did go the way you dream, all outside experience will be valuable.

 

[Flossie]

You make your own way in life, and shouldn't expect to get anything from anyone-if you do it's a nice bonus, but don't spend your life waiting for things to come your way.
Help your Uncle out because you love the work, not with an ulterior motive to gain the farm. How old is your Uncle? Is he of an age to be thinking what he's going to do? At the end of the day it's his business and if he gets a whiff that you're trying to sway him, he'll do the opposite.

 

[slackjawedyokel]

What happens if the Uncle gets to 60 years old and wants to sell up and spend it all on fast cars & whisky?

Or just waste it?

 

[Johnnyboxer]

You should of married your cousin.

Indeed, no need for this thread then