Inducing heifer

bovine

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Location
North
Bovine does a vet need to give her anaesthetic to do this - or is this something i can do myself? I have nice pointy scissors.

Just make sure they are clean and poke them in the line of the original incision. Might take quite a lot of force. Then open the blades a little and pull out. Fluid should run. Can hose out with clean water if she will let you (hose).

I wouldn't be using an anaesthetic.

@bovine my vet has emailed this today. Thoughts please?

"Zactran the long acting antibiotic is a very good antibiotic and lasts for 21 days. They can't claim that kind of cover without doing the work to prove it. It's worth considering rather than daily injections."

Zactran is a true long acting product. Is the cow sick? Does she have a temperature? I'd maybe give another bottle of Pen & Strep, but Zactran is not a 'wrong' choice. Many other things would be.
 

milkloss

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
I would avoid it, very very long withdrawal period, if anything was to happen to the hefier she wouldn't be suitable for slaughter

No one round here would pay for a damaged animal. Tell me about how this works if you don't mind.

We once had a complete disaster: did a c section on a cow, the calf was dead and upon stitching up the cow just keeled over dead on the spot. No obvious reason, just the way it goes. I told the vet to stuff the calf back in and stitch her up at which he looked at me incredulously and I said it would save on disposal as well as having the guts fall out all over the shop!
 

sjewart

Member
Just make sure they are clean and poke them in the line of the original incision. Might take quite a lot of force. Then open the blades a little and pull out. Fluid should run. Can hose out with clean water if she will let you (hose).

I wouldn't be using an anaesthetic.



Zactran is a true long acting product. Is the cow sick? Does she have a temperature? I'd maybe give another bottle of Pen & Strep, but Zactran is not a 'wrong' choice. Many other things would be.
Will temp check her tonight.
 

MRT

Member
Livestock Farmer
No one round here would pay for a damaged animal. Tell me about how this works if you don't mind.

We once had a complete disaster: did a c section on a cow, the calf was dead and upon stitching up the cow just keeled over dead on the spot. No obvious reason, just the way it goes. I told the vet to stuff the calf back in and stitch her up at which he looked at me incredulously and I said it would save on disposal as well as having the guts fall out all over the shop!

You didn't stuff her full of silage wrap too? Chemical containers.. Troublesome neighbours.....
 

GenuineRisk

Member
Location
Somerset
Such swelling isn't uncommon post op - as long as everything else is fine, i.e. check her temperature, udder's OK, she's eating and drinking properly and she and her calf are happy. Sometimes we'll drain, sometimes not - depends on individual. As said above, five different Vet practices would probably do ceasars five different ways. All I can say is that type of stitching isn't done here, we use daily jabs of an a/b like Betamox (not LA) 30cc for three days or, sometimes, 5 days if we are at all worried - the protocol our vets prefer. The fluid either is drained or it will dissipate over time and doesn't cause any discomfort if no infection, I guess - can honestly say postop infections aren't an issue here at all.

The level of service you've received is not what we would expect from our vets - it will be interesting to see what they charge you for this event.
 

crofteress

Member
Livestock Farmer
you wouldn't find better advice than above
its good you have phoned another practise
I changed practise a few years ago, its a lovely feeling to know you have sound vets that know cattle behind you
 

MRT

Member
Livestock Farmer
All I can say is that type of stitching isn't done here

I have seen all different sorts of patterns used, lots of knots - one knot top and bottom (you have to trust your knots!). Tension relieving and not. TBH skin pattern chosen hasn't made much difference to the outcome in my (limited) experiences. Cleanliness/effective cow restraint/compliance and how long the cow has been at calving seem to make the biggest difference
 

sjewart

Member
Thank you all, sorry i haven't replied to every comment - iv been away from home today. Oh well the vet practice i favoured phoned me back but have refused to visit stating the distance is to far to service me. Im disappointed as we are only 50mins away but i can't force them to take me on. Which leaves me creating a drain hole myself. Tomorrow's job i think.
 

multi power

Member
Location
pembrokeshire
Thank you all, sorry i haven't replied to every comment - iv been away from home today. Oh well the vet practice i favoured phoned me back but have refused to visit stating the distance is to far to service me. Im disappointed as we are only 50mins away but i can't force them to take me on. Which leaves me creating a drain hole myself. Tomorrow's job i think.
50 mins away is too far for a vet, isn't there any closer?
 

multi power

Member
Location
pembrokeshire
I was wondering who would do emergency slaughter and pay for it rather than than charge to take it away?
A local guy here used to do them, maybe £150 for a half decent fresian cow, bound to be well worth doing with a good beef beast
Failing getting anybody to take a casualty beast then I wouldn't hesitate to eat it myself
I wouldn't hesitate to kill it and butcher it myself too if need be
 

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