Is it to late to spray for docks

[shortshift]

Have a few docks in silage ground undecided whether to spray spring or now to avoid check in spring.

 

[Mr Mackay]

Actively growing??
I wouldnt bother now ,give them a good doing in the first few warm days of spring when they are !

But what do I know

 

[davidroberts30]

graze them off with sheep if possible then hit them in the spring

 

[milkloss]

Most decent dock sprays need warm conditions to be any good. Problem we have is that by the time the docks are growing well in the spring the grass is getting up there too.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

I sprayed some after 2 cut . Really hit them for 6

 

[Yale]

It will be too cold.

 

[davieh3350]

Full of goodness, only thing that doesn’t get eaten is the woody stem. Save your money.

 

[neilo]

Have a few docks in silage ground undecided whether to spray spring or now to avoid check in spring.

Spray with something in the Spring that doesn’t check the grass?

 

[anzani]

Have a few docks in silage ground undecided whether to spray spring or now to avoid check in spring.

Offer it as an exercise programme to an arable farmer devastated at the loss of shooting, ski-ing, and dogging. Better than just sitting looking out of a rain soaked window.

Pulling Docks using a Lazy Dog | The Lazy Dog Tool Company Limited

1. Lean the Lazy Dog frame slightly forward of vertical, and place the points of the Fork (No8) or Weeder Nose (No1b) about 6" back from the crown of the plant.Allow for a 'cushion of soil' between root and lifting fork. 2. Place your foot on the pivot and swing all your weight onto it

lazydogtools.co.uk

Tic

 

[dudders]

I can vouch for the effectiveness of digging them out. Either with @anzani's tool or a dock/thistle spud. Way more effective than sprays, because once you've got the root out it won't come back. Sprays need repeating several times before the root finally gives up.

 

[neilo]

I can vouch for the effectiveness of digging them out. Either with @anzani's tool or a dock/thistle spud. Way more effective than sprays, because once you've got the root out it won't come back. Sprays need repeating several times before the root finally gives up.

Don’t mature dock roots go down about 4’? You’ll only ever remove all the root of a young plant.

Modern systemic sprays certainly kill the whole root, if used correctly AND at the right time. Cutting corners with MCPA etc will just burn the top off, needing several hits.

 

[dudders]

We used various sprays for 40 years, Bandock originally, then Asulox, then SBK, but there was always a dock problem - just got used to doing the job routinely. I found a dock-spud a few years ago in a fleamarket and got stuck in that way - heck of a lot of work to start with, coz there were loads of them, but now they've gone. If I see a single dock somewhere, it's kind of an event and I return with the tool, dig it out. Some slip out easily, others can be right old beggars need digging well down. I'm not anti-spray, but I won't be using it again on docks.

 

[Yale]

Have to say weed wiping with 20:1 roundup seems to have drastically reduced them where we tried it last summer.

Wiped after cattle had grazed the grass around them.

 

[anzani]

Don’t mature dock roots go down about 4’? You’ll only ever remove all the root of a young plant.

Modern systemic sprays certainly kill the whole root, if used correctly AND at the right time. Cutting corners with MCPA etc will just burn the top off, needing several hits.

According to this document, depth can be 2.6 metres!, but only have regenerative buds down to 12cm.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjx_Pvkvu7sAhWTTcAKHR3wAJQQFjABegQICxAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.organicresearchcentre.com%2Fmanage%2Fauthincludes%2Farticle_uploads%2FORC-FiBL_Dock-control.pdf&usg=AOvVaw1zab2HJ4OJahIjuuT3PGgG

Just love the machine on the cover.

 

[texelburger]

I've been spot spraying them,this week,along with a few thistles so I hope it works.During the summer I do the same as I look at the sheep.Got a quad sprayer strapped in the back of the Kubota RTV.Its a good way to keep on top of them and to save the clover.

 

[dudders]

According to this document, depth can be 2.6 metres!, but only have regenerative buds down to 12cm.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjx_Pvkvu7sAhWTTcAKHR3wAJQQFjABegQICxAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.organicresearchcentre.com%2Fmanage%2Fauthincludes%2Farticle_uploads%2FORC-FiBL_Dock-control.pdf&usg=AOvVaw1zab2HJ4OJahIjuuT3PGgG

Just love the machine on the cover.

Just read the whole document, struggling to stay awake by the end, but the last bit woke me up big time - the bio-dynamic method of getting rid of docks is to signal to them that they are undesirable, thus removing their basis for existence.

If that would work with people too, the world could be a better place...

 

[Al R]

Never see docks or ragwort here as the sheep love them but scotch thistles are reappearing on the fields here recently

 

[Robt]

I sprayed moss at our local play ground last night. Looking at forecast it said warm temps abs dry for next 2 weeks so guess it’ll be taken up by plant. Can then do another top up in early spring when growth is vigorous

 

[deleted user 837354]

Waste of time spraying with these night time temps. Tried it a million times and been caught more times than not. Twists up the foliage and they start coming back after a few weeks.