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Jacob Rees-Mogg

I quite like Jacob. He's a very clever chap, but I don't agree with everything that he says. He was on the west country part of The Sunday Politics this morning talking about being able to import cheap beef from the USA after brexit.

Would this be the same beef that is raised using hormones? Don't they wash their chicken meat with chlorine?

I'd rather have coronation chicken.
 

Wellytrack

Member
Yep, I think he is great .He is happy to laugh at himself and his diction is a joy to listen to. Do not be fooled either he knows his stuff. I have seen plenty of comments from Labour supporters admiring his honesty.


Thought him rather humourless on most encounters I have seen.
 

Barleycorn

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
Hampshire
This makes my blood boil!
No meat should be allowed to be imported into these islands that has not been produced with the same standards that we have to abide by.
Why should we allow imports of antibiotic and hormone laden beef produced on a sickening feedlot. if this does come about I hope that the NFU will try to fight our corner by pointing this out to consumers. Sadly many will just buy on price, and you can be sure that the catering market will lap it up.
 

Wellytrack

Member
This makes my blood boil!
No meat should be allowed to be imported into these islands that has not been produced with the same standards that we have to abide by.
Why should we allow imports of antibiotic and hormone laden beef produced on a sickening feedlot. if this does come about I hope that the NFU will try to fight our corner by pointing this out to consumers. Sadly many will just buy on price, and you can be sure that the catering market will lap it up.


What should be, and what does are different things. When it comes to money, governments and officials can be fairly elastic with promises and morals.
 

S J H

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
No, no, no. After Brexit, every consumer will insist on supporting British producers. It must be true, I read it on here somewhere....
I think it was back in June.:facepalm:

I'd like to see the statistic of how many leave voters look for British grown food versus remain voters,

I like Jacob Rees-mogg, he may be right if American beef does come over here, but I think they want ours. I can't see the papers letting hormone grown beef slipping through unnoticed.
 
Think your consumers given the chance will enjoy U.S. beef, traditional breeds, consistent quality product......can understand British beef producers will be dismayed but trade is a two way street. If both countries have similar tariff rates or no tariff / free trade would be helpful.

U.S. beef is consistent quality but cannot be described as "cheap"............cheaper maybe but the freight will add something to grocery store cost.
Feel sure there is huge opportunity for your lamb to be sold in U.S., flock numbers continue to dwindle here and lamb is very expensive in the store.
 

willy

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Rutland
I think free trade agreements are where we will end up, and to be honest is how the whole world should work! We produce to a high standard but so do lots of other countries, and those that don't..well are going to be our main competitors. And so we have to produce for less and become more efficient. That should be the aim,as good welfare and high standards will be a marketable asset and also a positive step towards efficiency, we just need to drop all the pointless costs that are merelly cosmetic or for self gratification.
 

yellowbelly

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
N.Lincs
That should be the aim,as good welfare and high standards will be a marketable asset and also a positive step towards efficiency, we just need to drop all the pointless costs that are merelly cosmetic or for self gratification.
Fair point, but I would say most of us have been whittling away at costs for that long now, there can't be much farther we can go.
 

willy

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Rutland
Fair point, but I would say most of us have been whittling away at costs for that long now, there can't be much farther we can go.


I thought that, but when I drive around the country and especially into n wales, there are loads of 150-250 acre farms with 300 sheep and about 40 cows, and think to my self they surely cant be full time farming, I mean what do they do all day? They are either lazy or inefficient!!!!
 

S J H

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
I thought that, but when I drive around the country and especially into n wales, there are loads of 150-250 acre farms with 300 sheep and about 40 cows, and think to my self they surely cant be full time farming, I mean what do they do all day? They are either lazy or inefficient!!!!
Or, it's always been that way so they think it should carry on.
 

willy

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Rutland
Or, it's always been that way so they think it should carry on.


That's the problem,it is a nice way of life and so it's hard to think of anything else because you don't have too. But there is massive potential if you use a bit of joined up thinking, I mean most have a loader tractor and a Land Rover and a lambing shed and a silage feeder etc....why not build one state of the art cattle shed and join Together? Lots of arable men have done it and enjoy the fact they have decent machinery and tools but at a fraction of the cost of having their own shitty one. Scale is the key to really get those costsdown
 
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