Lamb down. Any ideas?

[CollCrofter]

Found a lamb just now stretched out and then when I moved it she curled her head right back. I'm thinking listeria or maybe pulpy kidney ??? Any thoughts? Cheers

 

[CollCrofter]

Not sure how to edit on the phone bit there's a but of rapid eye movement at times too

 

[Guleesh]

starved/hypothermic lambs do this as they're dying. we would inject glucose

 

[CollCrofter]

starved/hypothermic lambs do this as they're dying. we would inject glucose

I've given it twin lamb Drench as it's all I had. She had a belly of milk and wasnt there at the lunch time check

 

[andybk]

I've given it twin lamb Drench as it's all I had. She had a belly of milk and wasnt there at the lunch time check

need to catch it up really with ewe if poss , if it was starved will be the same again by morning (if alive ) needs feeding

 

[GrannyAching]

I've got a molly doing this. He was running around at seven o'clock yesterday morning and flat out about two. He's such a fighter, though. I gave ab's and metacam and he was shouting for a bottle in a couple of hours. He can't stand and the legs are often rigid and the head gets thrown back but give him a bottle and he's sucking in the correct position. I thought he was a bit stronger today. I'm giving him another 24 hours. He was sucking well so shouldn't be starved and, as he has a good appetite, that sort of suggests not listeria if I've understood correctly.

 

[Guleesh]

Hard to tell from side on but it doesn't look that full, I could be wrong but the head and neck curling is classic lamb dying lack of energy from either starving or shivering and burning off energy too fast, if lamb temp is 37c or under it's hypothermic, 39c to 40c is normal.
All our hypothermic lambs seem to do the head curling.

Other things may be swayback or vitamin E deficiency according to the book I have here.

 

[andybk]

I've got a molly doing this. He was running around at seven o'clock yesterday morning and flat out about two. He's such a fighter, though. I gave ab's and metacam and he was shouting for a bottle in a couple of hours. He can't stand and the legs are often rigid and the head gets thrown back but give him a bottle and he's sucking in the correct position. I thought he was a bit stronger today. I'm giving him another 24 hours. He was sucking well so shouldn't be starved and, as he has a good appetite, that sort of suggests not listeria if I've understood correctly.

poss joint ill , keep up the ab's for a few days , hurts before it shows

 

[GrannyAching]

poss joint ill , keep up the ab's for a few days , hurts before it shows

Ok, I'll monitor. I'll be disappointed if it is. It was a pulled off triplet, sprayed and colostrummed straight after birth. It's had metacam both days. I gave alamycin LA yesterday - would you give it another shot today? I was waiting til tomorrow on the basis the vets usually say every three days. (It's has "good" doses of both.)

Would you expect joint ill a week after birth? It's new to me in lambs. When I worked with cows they used to have it, frequently in the calves until I got there and made them feed colostrum!

 

[andybk]

Ok, I'll monitor. I'll be disappointed if it is. It was a pulled off triplet, sprayed and colostrummed straight after birth. It's had metacam both days. I gave alamycin LA yesterday - would you give it another shot today? I was waiting til tomorrow on the basis the vets usually say every three days. (It's has "good" doses of both.)

Would you expect joint ill a week after birth? It's new to me in lambs. When I worked with cows they used to have it, frequently in the calves until I got there and made them feed colostrum!

usually find a lamb cant get up or limps a few days maybe a few weeks after leaving nursery depends where infection settles , picks up infection through navel before its dry , might not be that but keep an eye on it . i use betamox / metcam for JI (white ) for 3 days

 

[tepapa]

I concur that the OP lamb is dying from starvation. Looks hollow and head back.

 

[Wooly]

It's going to die !!

It's a sheep !

 

[CollCrofter]

I concur that the OP lamb is dying from starvation. Looks hollow and head back.

Cheers for the replies. Definitely had a small belly on her. It's now had volostrum, I know its older but its higher energy and milk at the ready. After I gave it the glucose drench I had my tea and went back down with very low expectations and its sitting in the box looking at me quite the thing. Got the volostrum in it and now in the living room in a hay bedded box next to the heater and 0.5 Alamycin. See what the future holds!!

Maybe should keep this thread for any lambing issues we might have. One stop shop.

 

[Chasingmytail]

pet lamb then!

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Tube it asap

 

[Guleesh]

Cheers for the replies. Definitely had a small belly on her. It's now had volostrum, I know its older but its higher energy and milk at the ready. After I gave it the glucose drench I had my tea and went back down with very low expectations and its sitting in the box looking at me quite the thing. Got the volostrum in it and now in the living room in a hay bedded box next to the heater and 0.5 Alamycin. See what the future holds!!

Maybe should keep this thread for any lambing issues we might have. One stop shop.

Good thinking, our lambing not started yet so we can learn from all your mistakes You've even got the same paint mark as us.

 

[CollCrofter]

Well, well, well....
First photo maybe an hour and a half ago...
Second photo... live from the Croft.
Next task is to HOPE the mother will take her back somehow ??????

 

[tepapa]

There was a reason the lamb was starving to begin with. Ewe may not have enough milk, ewe not bonded with lamb enough, lamb to stupid to find teat.
It's good if the ewe will take it back and love it, but unfortunately it's not always the case.

 

[CollCrofter]

There was a reason the lamb was starving to begin with. Ewe may not have enough milk, ewe not bonded with lamb enough, lamb to stupid to find teat.
It's good if the ewe will take it back and love it, but unfortunately it's not always the case.

Oh I know it will be a pet but I'm gonna try and even if the ewe comes back to her it means I can at least catch the ewe and check her out, that's more my thinking.

 

[Bill dog]

Good effort ! Nice when they respond and want to live !