Large scale egg producers loosing money hand over fist

[Agrivator]

The irony is that folk have been willing to invest large sums of money into free-range egg production on an industrial scale, when it is well known that it is far less welfare friendly than well-managed indoor systems.

 

[Only]

I got 64000 hens and I told my packer I am not restocking at the prices he is paying at present

You with oaklands

 

[henman]

You with oaklands

yes
I herd of farmers putting there sheds over 25 years complete madness

 

[henman]

We nearly invested in a shed 18 years ago. Organic movable.
Block of land came up next door so was a no brainer.
Land value has gone up and up.
Layer shed would be knackered by now.

Think it was right decision and sad to see egg job going bad.

Hasn't the Welsh government piled Grant's into egg units?

IF you had gone into eggs 18 years ago you would have paid that investment its the last year and half which as been crap
the welsh government has given 40% grants on a few sheds

 

[Werzle]

Takes some understanding, i know a welsh farmer who had thousands of ewes who went into layers 6-7 yrs ago and reckons its the best things he's done, cannot wait to get his third unit up! Is there a grant they can fiddle to make it pay better?

 

[henman]

Takes some understanding, i know a welsh farmer who had thousands of ewes who went into layers 6-7 yrs ago and reckons its the best things he's done, cannot wait to get his third unit up! Is there a grant they can fiddle to make it pay better?

If T could get a 40% grant I would build a new shed

 

[Ninjago]

If T could get a 40% grant I would build a new shed

The sweet sense of happiness of obtaining a grant, will soon disappear after a couple of bad years. This is a long term game.

 

[Only]

If T could get a 40% grant I would build a new shed

I got 1

 

[Only]

yes
I herd of farmers putting there sheds over 25 years complete madness

Cant c banks doing that are the moment !!!!!

 

[kill]

Cant c banks doing that are the moment !!!!!

I don't have chickens but I remember my bank manager telling me that his bank were rather more cautious on chicken loans after Black down went under as it was a wake up call to them at the time.

 

[Only]

I don't have chickens but I remember my bank manager telling me that his bank were rather more cautious on chicken loans after Black down went under as it was a wake up call to them at the time.

Lidl killed them and may kill another packer at the moment

 

[Only]

Lidl are trying to grow fast at prices in free range that are suicidal for packers and consequently farmers

 

[Only]

It's like sainsbury killing Tomlinson's dairies medina etc

 

[Only]

The definition of susbanility from a supermarket perspective is - it's not sustainable for us ( supermarkets) to pay you ( our suppliers) more simple as

 

[Pan mixer]

Pigs will be next - especially contract finishers.

 

[Daniel]

I've been to a few talks by John Kirkpatrick, head of poultry for Tesco. He always talks about sustainability, but never about profitability.

 

[Daniel]

Pigs will be next - especially contract finishers.

The contract pig finishers don't have quite as much skin in the game, given they don't own the pigs or buy the feed?

 

[Only]

I've been to a few talks by John Kirkpatrick, head of poultry for Tesco. He always talks about sustainability, but never about profitability.

I've just given you a supermarket definition of sustainability straight from the horses mouth its brutal out there!!!!

 

[Pan mixer]

The contract pig finishers don't have quite as much skin in the game, given they don't own the pigs or buy the feed?

But they may just have borrowed half a million for a fancy shed.

 

[Only]

Lidl and aldi have changed British again for ever they make sweet fa as a sacifice for market share and have destroyed margins In all sectors no value any longer in products