Littering in the countryside

Dry Rot

Member
Livestock Farmer
what about the people in the posh houses who dump their rubbish, grass cuttings, garden waste either across the road from them on the verge, hedge of a field, or in their back gardens into my fields? its so sad, how the country has declined in so many ways, yes we are all more prosperous well feed, some more then others ? but our moral,s behavior, how we conduct ourselves in public etc has so so declined ?

To be fair, thinking back, not a lot was packaged. Everything was loose and ladled into brown paper bags. I can still remember two old brothers who kept a grocers shop. You wanted some porridge? It would be, How much sir? Then the old boy would go to a wooden chest, open it up and ladle the required amount into a brown paper bag on the scales. The top then had the top neatly folded closed and the whole parcel tied up with string! All biodegradable! 1970s? Same thing for biscuits, bread, etc. Packaging was quite a novelty when it arrived and quite a selling feature. Yes, we did throw litter out of the car window, but it disappeared and I think I know why now, looking back!
 

thorpe

Member
To be fair, thinking back, not a lot was packaged. Everything was loose and ladled into brown paper bags. I can still remember two old brothers who kept a grocers shop. You wanted some porridge? It would be, How much sir? Then the old boy would go to a wooden chest, open it up and ladle the required amount into a brown paper bag on the scales. The top then had the top neatly folded closed and the whole parcel tied up with string! All biodegradable! 1970s? Same thing for biscuits, bread, etc. Packaging was quite a novelty when it arrived and quite a selling feature. Yes, we did throw litter out of the car window, but it disappeared and I think I know why now, looking back!
who can remember the big tins of biscuits in woolworths help yourself pick and mix into a brown paper bag. and they tasted far better than todays packaged offerings.
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
Just think how big of a land fill site would be required if all the roadside rubbish was collected. May be the local authorities are aware of this and decided it is easier to sweep it under the carpet (hedge/verge)
 

Grassman

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Location
Derbyshire
I think a lot of fly tipping and general rubbish is just the modern lack of respect for authority that has invaded society. No respect for police, politicians or basically anyone in a position of authority.
Plus the idea that there is someone to blame for everything except yourself.
Eg, if the lockdown isn't working its the governments fault.
 

tullah

Member
Location
Linconshire
I think a lot of fly tipping and general rubbish is just the modern lack of respect for authority that has invaded society. No respect for police, politicians or basically anyone in a position of authority.
Plus the idea that there is someone to blame for everything except yourself.
Eg, if the lockdown isn't working its the governments fault.

Plus their human rights and right to legal aid. Scrap them both.
 
Just think how big of a land fill site would be required if all the roadside rubbish was collected. May be the local authorities are aware of this and decided it is easier to sweep it under the carpet (hedge/verge)
local council here have litter pickers every 6 months on remote roads
parish council litter pickers every week with in the village
mcdonald drive in has its own litter picker does the area around their entrance as a few 100 yards either side
 

GmB

Member
Location
S.Glos
I had a weird one Friday. Drove down the driveway to find a fridge dumped just inside my gate. About normal really given the amount of fly tipping that goes on. On my way back in later with an empty trailer I loaded it on, plus the Tassimo coffee maker that was laying beside it. The fridge looked suspiciously new, and spotlessly clean inside. So put it in the shed upright to let the refrigerant settle (rightly or wrongly I've always tried to keep a fridge upright when moving it and if its been on its side for any period of time leave it upright for 24 hours before plugging it in. Someone once told me it was better for them :scratchhead:) and the next day plugged it in. Motor fired up immediately, and the pot of water I placed in the freezer box was frozen a few hours later. So looks like I've acquired a working fridge. Only the under work top type, but hey, better than the normal pile of rubbish! In fact I think its tidier than the fridge I have :wideyed:

I then turned my attention to the coffee maker. It too looked complete and in good condition, so placed it by the wood burner over night to make sure it was dried out, and plugged it it. All the lights lit up, and after a bit of research on Youtube found a video of a bloke demonstrating the exact model. This time not quite so lucky, a light is on suggesting it needs to go through its cleaning cycle and to do that it needs a special barcoded insert. I've ordered one off ebay for £5 and I shall see if I can make it work, I quite like a hot chocolate! The same model is on Argos for £60.

Such are the vagaries of life on the urban fringe..........
I had a wacker plate dumped in my gateway, once I had replaced the broken pull start and petrol tap it has come in very handy!
 
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Why do I bother?
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Netherfield

Member
Location
West Yorkshire
Nobody wants for anything anymore. When we got wed we were glad for anything old or used to get by with until we could afford better.

Mother in Law passed recently.

Working fridge freezer, no-one in the family needs one, left it outside hoping someone local might take it away. Nobody wants a second hand bed, glass TV stand and other furniture placed on a local website, no one wants a three piece suite, or the TV stand or the microwave, or even the small TV from her bedroom 2 years old, her great grandkids 9,11 and 13 all have a TV in the bedroom already, all the charity places are either shut or full up in their storage.

Now we've a skip coming £250 to get rid of all this lot, £25 to the local council to take the Fridge freezer away, so I can imagine why people dump or pay a 'man with a van' to take it all away and not care where it ends up.
 

roscoe erf

Member
Livestock Farmer
Nobody wants for anything anymore. When we got wed we were glad for anything old or used to get by with until we could afford better.

Mother in Law passed recently.

Working fridge freezer, no-one in the family needs one, left it outside hoping someone local might take it away. Nobody wants a second hand bed, glass TV stand and other furniture placed on a local website, no one wants a three piece suite, or the TV stand or the microwave, or even the small TV from her bedroom 2 years old, her great grandkids 9,11 and 13 all have a TV in the bedroom already, all the charity places are either shut or full up in their storage.

Now we've a skip coming £250 to get rid of all this lot, £25 to the local council to take the Fridge freezer away, so I can imagine why people dump or pay a 'man with a van' to take it all away and not care where it ends up.
its a great shame they all shout about recycling but it never seems to starts at home I've recycled all my relatives items one way or another
 
Nobody wants for anything anymore. When we got wed we were glad for anything old or used to get by with until we could afford better.

Mother in Law passed recently.

Working fridge freezer, no-one in the family needs one, left it outside hoping someone local might take it away. Nobody wants a second hand bed, glass TV stand and other furniture placed on a local website, no one wants a three piece suite, or the TV stand or the microwave, or even the small TV from her bedroom 2 years old, her great grandkids 9,11 and 13 all have a TV in the bedroom already, all the charity places are either shut or full up in their storage.

Now we've a skip coming £250 to get rid of all this lot, £25 to the local council to take the Fridge freezer away, so I can imagine why people dump or pay a 'man with a van' to take it all away and not care where it ends up.
Facebook local free for sale or swap site, most stuff seems to go pretty quick, I’ve never managed to get anything off such a site yet, stuff is usually spoken for in minutes if free or at a bargain price
 
I did another litter pick with my fab picker stick on friday - good time of year as the hedgerows are bare. Managed to pull out a lot of old cans. Lucazade plastic bottles and crisp packs were the main fare. I did 2 hours down the road and reckon I have another 2hours with the kid to get to the main road. I also did the grass verge along the main road to one side - another 2hrs. It looks so much better. I pulled a few bags thrown on top of the hedge. The issue here is the road 2 way country road is fast and the council will not do litter picks even though it would be way with traffic light system. It looks like the 3rd world all along the road on both sides its becoming horrendous and needs action. Thinking of doing some vids and sending to local MP. There are plenty of locals who are willing to help. What I find sad is there are a few neighbours around me but you never see them picking. I picked all along a home where a number of adults like there was def stuff from their home as it was squash and detergent bottles which obv fell out of their recycling. It wouldnt take much time out of their day to take the kids down the road for half an hour. Unless the majority get off their ar*e its not up to a very few and complain and blame the council.
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
I think the people that do it like doing
there’s plenty who drive further to dump stuff in the countryside than driving to local skips (in cars)
Weirdly, all the prosecutions of 'householders' I've seen for this fall within that, not one would have had to drive further to reach an official dump... :banghead: (of course pikey types don't fall into this category)

In recent years I have travelled to France, Spain, USA and Latvia. Nowhere else is as bad as here.
I can think of a few places in France where I've seen as bad, outside Paris but can't remember the road, on the road between Caen and Lisieux (a whole bank down about forty yards from the road was filled top to bottom), and just outside Marseille. To be fair these were all at least a couple of years ago, so things may have changed.

Introduce a bounty scheme. 50% commission on each litterer successfully prosecuted and fined through the courts.

Everyone seems to have a phone that can record video these days! Fly tipping fines are up to £20,000. A £10,000 bonus would come in quite handy!
'Up to' is the problem, the Courts rarely hit hard enough. I like the idea of a bounty, but I'd set it at a minimum of £500 and maximum of £2000, you could make a fair sum on that basis. (y)

I also think the fines should be on top of costs to clear up the tipping and Court costs... and that the vehicle used should be confiscated and sold for public funds.

I really dislike fly-tipping and fly-tippers.
 

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