LIVESTOCK HAULAGE COST?

[Pan mixer]

For me it is a no brainer, it is bad enough having the bio-security risk of a driver and clean wagon arriving every Monday morning.

Were I to have to have a lorry myself (I move about 7 tonnes of animals every week and so a trailer would not be the option) There are capital costs, running costs, continually testing of the vehicle etc.

Added to that an extra 3 to 4 hours time by me exposing myself to the bio-security risk of a slaughterhouse, washing out and returning home etc.

I am just not going to get all of that for the fee I pay my haulier.

 

[Agrivator]

i was kind of thinking what are you left when all the costs, everyone else has taken their cut? profit? so say you get 1,000 pounds for a animal, first cut if you sell threw a mart is mart commisson and levy etc, then second is if you pay for haulage, but even if you use your own means, ie vehicle and ivor williams plus your time, that has a cost ?

The only consolation is that we are spreading our ''subsidy payments'' throughout the rest of the community. And with cattle hauliers, we are often thankful of their help in loading difficult cattle, and then giving us time to put on our best market gear before we follow them to the mart. And sometimes, but very rarely I hasten to add, I've even been known to buy the haulier his lunch. How generous is that?

And if we buy cattle, they also take responsibility for loading strange and potentially lethal nutcases.

But we can often do them a favour by trying to take small uneconomic lots ourselves

 

[bluebell]

im in no way begrudging the many hard working people that take a slice of the end product worth be it cattle or grain its just the harse truth that in the commercial world to just not bother and rent it out seems to be more profit for a lot lot less agro, and we wonder why that farming is just not worth a toss?

 

[kfpben]

9 store beasts is an awkward number to take. Too big for the Ifor, too few for a serious haulier. A load that size will work out expensively unless you can club together with a neighbour.

 

[kfpben]

Livestock haulage is expensive. It seems very much more expensive to move a bullock than a tonne of grain in this area.

I’ve never had a ton of grain crap on me, charge at me or refuse to load!

 

[livestock 1]

Go and buy a wagon and a box do your cpc’s , apply for your operators licence (you will need to take exams for this) advertise the application in two papers, pay a fitter to do its periodical checks, do the paperwork, maintenance sheets, tax, insurance, mot, tyres, diesel, driver, repairs, servicing then tell me again about how expensive this is?

 

[Skintagain]

Go and buy a wagon and a box do your cpc’s , apply for your operators licence (you will need to take exams for this) advertise the application in two papers, pay a fitter to do its periodical checks, do the paperwork, maintenance sheets, tax, insurance, mot, tyres, diesel, driver, repairs, servicing then tell me again about how expensive this is?

You missed out paying any fines!!

 

[livestock 1]

You missed out paying any fines!!

Yes best week I had was 6k.

 

[livestock 1]

Good point

 

[DB67]

Tractor drawn float we have which wasn’t cheap but with sheep at winterings and a few holdings etc I’d say it’s a worthwhile investment. Haulage bill every year would be insane.

 

[egbert]

Go and buy a wagon and a box do your cpc’s , apply for your operators licence (you will need to take exams for this) advertise the application in two papers, pay a fitter to do its periodical checks, do the paperwork, maintenance sheets, tax, insurance, mot, tyres, diesel, driver, repairs, servicing then tell me again about how expensive this is?

you forgot the 'pass your livestock transport test', 'run the gauntlet of VOSA roadside checks', 'pick up a few bad payers' etc etc

 

[egbert]

im in no way begrudging the many hard working people that take a slice of the end product worth be it cattle or grain its just the harse truth that in the commercial world to just not bother and rent it out seems to be more profit for a lot lot less agro, and we wonder why that farming is just not worth a toss?

That's a bigger question altogether.

And like others, I find it odd that you're regarding the haulage cost as the same as mart levies etc.
The haulier will expect to be paid whether your cattle top the mart, or don't attract a bid.
What they sell for is of no consequence to him (well, beyond he'd probably rather work for someone turning enough revenue to be able to pay their bills.... and even then, the sale price is hardly the best guide of that. )

 

[Purli R]

Yes best week I had was 6k.

6 ton overloaded?? (on a 7.5ton truck?)

 

[bluebell]

do the people who have these large tractor drawn cattle trailers, run them on the cherry? meet all the road regulations etc etc?

 

[livestock 1]

6 ton overloaded?? (on a 7.5ton truck?)

Not far out!

 

[livestock 1]

you forgot the 'pass your livestock transport test', 'run the gauntlet of VOSA roadside checks', 'pick up a few bad payers' etc etc

Unsociable hours too

 

[livestock 1]

6 ton overloaded?? (on a 7.5ton truck?)

Two wagons pulled for weight in the same week.
It would help if you didn’t get fined three times for the same thing?

 

[harperfarmer]

Go and buy a wagon and a box do your cpc’s , apply for your operators licence (you will need to take exams for this) advertise the application in two papers, pay a fitter to do its periodical checks, do the paperwork, maintenance sheets, tax, insurance, mot, tyres, diesel, driver, repairs, servicing then tell me again about how expensive this is?

This is absolutely spot on. We used to run our own lorry. What it cost to run buys a hell of a lot of haulage imo. Plus very often just regarding hassle factor getting a decker in is just so much easier and straight forward than doing multiple trips with a vehicle and trailer ?.

 

[harperfarmer]

I pay £20/head to get mine taken to slaughter. I couldn't do it anywhere close to that myself.

 

[JP1]

Go and buy a wagon and a box do your cpc’s , apply for your operators licence (you will need to take exams for this) advertise the application in two papers, pay a fitter to do its periodical checks, do the paperwork, maintenance sheets, tax, insurance, mot, tyres, diesel, driver, repairs, servicing then tell me again about how expensive this is?

+1 and then limit your working hours and then wash out your wagon on top of that