Margin per cow

coomoo

Member
Snow today so be pricing everything and anything. On the feed front top spec 18 % from another company coming in at 208 and 198 if paid in 7 days, will help costs :mad:
 

Bald Rick

Moderator
Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
Snow today so be pricing everything and anything. On the feed front top spec 18 % from another company coming in at 208 and 198 if paid in 7 days, will help costs :mad:

Dont forget that most (all?) mills will have added at least £2/t (& probably a lot more) because of the vitamin shortage following the German plant fire.
Prices should ease by April (I emphasis should but probably mean wont)
 

supercow

Member
Location
Dumfriesshire
Out of curiosity @supercow when milk price hit the floor where did you get cost wise, yield/ quality wise and ration make up?
Our feed cost per litre went to 6 pence a litre, cows were doing 26/27 litres, cut the blend out of the ration. So ration was whole crop, draff, silage and a good amount of cake for higher yielders. What I found with not feeding blend was cows got stale as soon as they got in calve, whereas feeding 6/7 kilo of blend milk stays up for longer and keeps high yielders happy. 50 cows out of 190 giving over 40 litres currently, about 60 hiefers milking. They are doing well, and they will do ok if we cut feed costs but it's that difficult finding the way to make best margin. Some people on here must make hundreds of thousand year in year out going by how efficient they sound on here.
 

supercow

Member
Location
Dumfriesshire
Supercow, you do a good job and I respect your honesty.

But constantly baiting people like the last sentence in the above makes you look daft.
Granted it probably does, but it's tiring thinking your doing a reasonable job and coming on here and a ton of folk making a fortune! Thanks for your honesty. I get told this a lot actualy in real life.
 

coomoo

Member
Our feed cost per litre went to 6 pence a litre, cows were doing 26/27 litres, cut the blend out of the ration. So ration was whole crop, draff, silage and a good amount of cake for higher yielders. What I found with not feeding blend was cows got stale as soon as they got in calve, whereas feeding 6/7 kilo of blend milk stays up for longer and keeps high yielders happy. 50 cows out of 190 giving over 40 litres currently, about 60 hiefers milking. They are doing well, and they will do ok if we cut feed costs but it's that difficult finding the way to make best margin. Some people on here must make hundreds of thousand year in year out going by how efficient they sound on here.
Thanks the last time with us we got by but if it happens again so soon we’ll struggle. Interesting cost for litres actually doesn’t look too bad.
 
Just looking at one cost in isolation is fairly meaningless. My purchased feed costs would be no more than 3ppl but with far lower yields than most I have fewer litres to spread other costs over.
i agree with that ours would be 5.3p including bought in maize but its meaningless without knowing forage costs in total.
That's why i feel margins are pointless just as much as i think wasting time worrying about the price of cake seems to missing the point of running a business for profit.
 
Location
cumbria
i agree with that ours would be 5.3p including bought in maize but its meaningless without knowing forage costs in total.
That's why i feel margins are pointless just as much as i think wasting time worrying about the price of cake seems to missing the point of running a business for profit.

Not really,

The cake price discussion quickly gave way to a discussion on quality forage being the key driver for lower costs.
you gotta be on board with that surely?
 

supercow

Member
Location
Dumfriesshire
I feel cake and blend prices are relevant to the housed year round guys that live in rubbish weather locations of the British Isles. Not so much to the grazers maybe? Thanks @stablegirl good advice, but you have to agree it can be a wind up on here sometimes. Then again, because a lot of us are glued to this forum means we are all passionate about our job, when passionate people collide especially dairy farmers it gets interesting! Need to learn to shut up so I do..!
 

Durry cows

Member
Location
Derbyshire
I feel cake and blend prices are relevant to the housed year round guys that live in rubbish weather locations of the British Isles. Not so much to the grazers maybe? Thanks @stablegirl good advice, but you have to agree it can be a wind up on here sometimes. Then again, because a lot of us are glued to this forum means we are all passionate about our job, when passionate people collide especially dairy farmers it gets interesting! Need to learn to shut up so I do..!
Agree with stablegirl hope you don’t read in to the figure I posted too much as pointed out have plenty of efficiencies to find in other areas ;) the figures I posted are current we have never had it that good before, plenty fresher cows too
 
your right of course i suppose its low margin high output businesses that i have an issue with. if the price of bloody cake can ruin the bottom line then i for one wouldn't sleep well at night and would be wasting far too much time on how the Argentinan soya harvest is progressing.

Sorry
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

  • 0 %

    Votes: 105 40.9%
  • Up to 25%

    Votes: 93 36.2%
  • 25-50%

    Votes: 39 15.2%
  • 50-75%

    Votes: 5 1.9%
  • 75-100%

    Votes: 3 1.2%
  • 100% I’ve had enough of farming!

    Votes: 12 4.7%

May Event: The most profitable farm diversification strategy 2024 - Mobile Data Centres

  • 1,655
  • 32
With just a internet connection and a plug socket you too can join over 70 farms currently earning up to £1.27 ppkw ~ 201% ROI

Register Here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-mo...2024-mobile-data-centres-tickets-871045770347

Tuesday, May 21 · 10am - 2pm GMT+1

Location: Village Hotel Bury, Rochdale Road, Bury, BL9 7BQ

The Farming Forum has teamed up with the award winning hardware manufacturer Easy Compute to bring you an educational talk about how AI and blockchain technology is helping farmers to diversify their land.

Over the past 7 years, Easy Compute have been working with farmers, agricultural businesses, and renewable energy farms all across the UK to help turn leftover space into mini data centres. With...
Top