New zealand jersey

[Llmmm]

My pure jerseys have all but died out for this very reason, bought two lovely danish ones but they had beef calves every year as I put a sweeper but in. Had 7 at one point, only one left now. In calf to AA

ive herd this rubbish before that jerseys arent fertile the reason for many is that a few jerseys are put in with a large amount of bigger breeds eg holstein the problem is if there grazed too hard the jerseys wont get time to eat enough trials have been done on this so the yield poorer and have poorer fertility i dont graze very hard and my pure jerseys are as fertile and some years more fertile than crossbreds.The reason i want to keep breeding a percentage of the herd pure is to see if theres much difference in yield a purebred is allways easier to manage.my daughters of vj link have an average 364 calving interval.

 

[Cows 'n grass]

How much do they want for a straw of sexed LIC over there?

Depending on quantity I think it was £32 - £40ish.

 

[Cows 'n grass]

CRV sell the ambreed bulls, or at least they used to?

They still do but not sexed

 

[Farmer Keith]

ive herd this rubbish before that jerseys arent fertile the reason for many is that a few jerseys are put in with a large amount of bigger breeds eg holstein the problem is if there grazed too hard the jerseys wont get time to eat enough trials have been done on this so the yield poorer and have poorer fertility i dont graze very hard and my pure jerseys are as fertile and some years more fertile than crossbreds.The reason i want to keep breeding a percentage of the herd pure is to see if theres much difference in yield a purebred is allways easier to manage.my daughters of vj link have an average 364 calving interval.

I hear your point but no big Holsteins here and plenty of similar sized crossbreds that calve at 365. Not much rubbish in it from my perspective, poorer fertility than both nz bred stuff and my British Friesians.

 

[Llmmm]

I haven't a lot of LIC jersey for a few years now. 10 years ago they were definitely 350kg cows that gave 3000 litres but I do think they've come quite a long way recently. I would use more again now if they weren't so expensive for the 4m bulls.

I have some really nice looking Misty heifers running with the bulls at the moment and quite a few really strong looking Connacht calves. I would definitely be using more Connacht this year if I hadn't decided to use all sexed semen.

I would happily use 100% Ambreed jersey and fresian if they were available sexed.

Those nz cows in past i seen would look like 3000ltr i checked out crv bull they do have positive liveweight and stature did you find the nz hardier than dainish

 

[Llmmm]

I hear your point but no big Holsteins here and plenty of similar sized crossbreds that calve at 365. Not much rubbish in it from my perspective, poorer fertility than both nz bred stuff and my British Friesians.

Well you could have been unlucky and bought a few crap cows 7 cows is hardly a faie trial if they were out of a poor fertilty bulls.A crossbred cow is different animal to a pure jersey they have higher bodycondition to deal with grazing a pure hasnt much to fall back on.

 

[Dead Rabbits]

Depending on quantity I think it was £32 - £40ish.

Woof. Didn’t price any sexed this year but regular LIC $7, limited selection due to corona. Regular US jersey $10.

Not sure if it’s much help to @Llmmm but we went with 1/3 each of US jersey, LIC jersey and LIC crossbred this year. I have seen herds of nearly pure LIC jersey and they are too damn small.

I think an American jersey crossed with kiwi cross makes an ok animal. You get a good udder and decent volume with components.

 

[Llmmm]

Woof. Didn’t price any sexed this year but regular LIC $7, limited selection due to corona. Regular US jersey $10.

Not sure if it’s much help to @Llmmm but we went with 1/3 each of US jersey, LIC jersey and LIC crossbred this year. I have seen herds of nearly pure LIC jersey and they are too damn small.

I think an American jersey crossed with kiwi cross makes an ok animal. You get a good udder and decent volume with components.

My experience of kiwi cross was a big variation in size of calves some as small as jersey and as big as the biggest friesian .

 

[lazy farmer]

Yes, basically these guys are paid pence per litre -while we are penalised for litres and paid for solids.

Not true we are paid for solids not litres on the vast majority of farms In The Uk. It’s just most farmers either don’t understand this or choose to ignore it.

 

[Dead Rabbits]

My experience of kiwi cross was a big variation in size of calves some as small as jersey and as big as the biggest friesian .

yeah we get some of that as well but the herd is so crossed it’s to be expected. Never ever use anything but jersey on heifers though. Not worth it.

 

[jerseycowsman]

My pure jerseys have all but died out for this very reason, bought two lovely danish ones but they had beef calves every year as I put a sweeper but in. Had 7 at one point, only one left now. In calf to AA

Have a look at NMR stuff, you’ll find jerseys have the lowest calving index of all breeds

 

[som farmer]

ive herd this rubbish before that jerseys arent fertile the reason for many is that a few jerseys are put in with a large amount of bigger breeds eg holstein the problem is if there grazed too hard the jerseys wont get time to eat enough trials have been done on this so the yield poorer and have poorer fertility i dont graze very hard and my pure jerseys are as fertile and some years more fertile than crossbreds.The reason i want to keep breeding a percentage of the herd pure is to see if theres much difference in yield a purebred is allways easier to manage.my daughters of vj link have an average 364 calving interval.

having experienced jerseys, on an ultra dry farm, I would say they are some of the most effective grazers, through the summer, they would graze, in full seed mode, all sorts of grass, the hols that replaced them, couldn't get close. But i have struggled to get them, i/c, and we are very xbred. Our pure j's, are always first to feed trough.

 

[som farmer]

Not true we are paid for solids not litres on the vast majority of farms In The Uk. It’s just most farmers either don’t understand this or choose to ignore it.

a lot say solids, but think litres, its in our make up, more liters means more profit, why did hols get so popular ? That and white water contracts, and cake reps encouraging higher cake use, once you lose that mind set, you have to learn another ! I try to think kg per cow, or acre, but I still think litres!

 

[daibach57]

We are quite happy with kiwi cross cattle, they are fertile low maintenance and give a decent amount of milk solids,which is what we are paid on.
Have made more money out of 5000 litre yields than we ever did at 9000 litres 25 years ago

 

[daibach57]

Anyone any experience of these for block calving grazing cows.Never been brave enough to try as the ones ive seen were very small however ive grown disillusioned with american and dainish breeding there bred fir tmr and inbreeding seems to be a problem would these nz jerseys hold condition better and give good milk.

They are great grazing cows ,small makes them more suitable for grazing and can be kept at a higher stocking rate

 

[O'Reilly]

Woof. Didn’t price any sexed this year but regular LIC $7, limited selection due to corona. Regular US jersey $10.

Not sure if it’s much help to @Llmmm but we went with 1/3 each of US jersey, LIC jersey and LIC crossbred this year. I have seen herds of nearly pure LIC jersey and they are too damn small.

I think an American jersey crossed with kiwi cross makes an ok animal. You get a good udder and decent volume with components.

Isn't a US Jersey the size of a small Holstein? Looking at some proofs now, they must be 5 foot tall? I'm looking to the jersey to reduce size, it might not work with these!

 

[O'Reilly]

And another thing, why have so many (of all jerseys) got figures for high pins? I know it's not fashionable to worry about these details, but I find cows with high pins don't move so well, and are awkward to inseminate.

 

[Llmmm]

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Isn't a US Jersey the size of a small Holstein? Looking at some proofs now, they must be 5 foot tall? I'm looking to the jersey to reduce size, it might not work with these!

They will reduce size but you will get a frail animal lacking strength.why not use a small british friesian reduce size and increase strength.

 

[O'Reilly]

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They will reduce size but you will get a frail animal lacking strength.why not use a small british friesian reduce size and increase strength.

Cows not lacking strength atm, and the Friesians I've looked at figures for all seem to be fairly big. I would be crossing anyway, so I would be probably using a Friesian in the mix as well, with a red breed of some sort.

 

[Llmmm]

Cows not lacking strength atm, and the Friesians I've looked at figures for all seem to be fairly big. I would be crossing anyway, so I would be probably using a Friesian in the mix as well, with a red breed of some sort.

Ive had some american jerseys out of strong holstein cows these were super cows with great udders and held condition very well.However it didnt work the other way round as the type of holstein would wreck a jersey calving