Numnuts

[scholland]

Numnuts castration is now licensed to use in Scotland, looking forward to using it here this year.
Numnuts.co.uk

I know it won't suit some folk but for us ringing at a month old as well as nemo drench, tag, troy jag whilst in the tailing chute works really well

 

[beardface]

Been following them for a while, hoping England sees sense and follows suit. Will transform our outdoor lambing operation. Could ride round assisting and gathering up then tail up after be a breeze.

 

[ladycrofter]

Thought it was meant to be within 7 days?

 

[Bury the Trash]

 

[Bury the Trash]

Thought it was meant to be within 7 days?

Cut and paste just for the record. the law as it stands.

"In Scotland, lambs up to 3 months old may be tail docked using a rubber ring or other device to constrict the blood flow to the tail by a stock keeper. If the lamb is over 7 days old, anaesthesia must be used. Lambs up to 3 months old may be tail docked using a hot iron by a stock keeper without anaesthesia."

"In Scotland, ram lambs up to 3 months may be castrated using a rubber ring or other device to constrict the flow of blood to the scrotum. If the lamb is over 7 days old, anaesthesia must be used."

 

[neilo]

Mr Eadie's not going to be happy...

 

[ladycrofter]

What an amazing piece of engineering! So many benefits to not having to do banding at birth

 

[spin cycle]

barbaric

 

[neilo]

What an amazing piece of engineering! So many benefits to not having to do banding at birth

Absolutely, just so long as those looking to make money from it don't manage to convince the powers that be that there is anything wrong with using a ring at birth.

 

[spark_28]

What kind of price is that?

 

[scholland]

What kind of price is that?

Prices are on the website

 

[spin cycle]

can we send 100 sets down to defra

 

[Nithsdale]

Absolutely, just so long as those looking to make money from it don't manage to convince the powers that be that there is anything wrong with using a ring at birth.

That's the critical part.

I certainly do not want to go back to gathering lambs at 4 weeks old to band them.



Been there, got that t-shirt and life is so much better banding them at birth. As long as you know what you're doing - and have good breeding - there's no issue banding even in heavy rain, god knows I have the experience

 

[scholland]

That's the critical part.

I certainly do not want to go back to gathering lambs at 4 weeks old to band them.



Been there, got that t-shirt and life is so much better banding them at birth. As long as you know what you're doing - and have good breeding - there's no issue banding even in heavy rain, god knows I have the experience

We used to tail at birth but now prefer the other way, lots.

With the chute lambs are well restrained so easy to administer the few different treatments.
I find it easier to drench and jag while they're in the chute.
Yes it's a tough day filling the chute but there's usually a youngun or 2 in need of some pocket money!

I wouldn't ring at 4 to 6 weeks old without pain relief of some kind, hopeful numnuts will work well.

 

[Nithsdale]

We used to tail at birth but now prefer the other way, lots.

With the chute lambs are well restrained so easy to administer the few different treatments.
I find it easier to drench and jag while they're in the chute.
Yes it's a tough day filling the chute but there's usually a youngun or 2 in need of some pocket money!

I wouldn't ring at 4 to 6 weeks old without pain relief of some kind, hopeful numnuts will work well.

But that's my point. It takes a squad/group to do it all in one go. It's a big job, lambs at 4 weeks old can be tvvats to gather so it can be stressful ... but you're doing other things at the same time so fair enough

My lambs are banded at birth (I'm lambing now). First time they'll be in the pens/handled is for Nemo dose in mid/late May...

I work alone - and I don't see getting casual labour to handle several hundred lambs getting any easier. I know plenty places in my area struggle as it is - maybe they don't pay enough, or maybe those potential workers expect too big a pay i don't know but i don't see relying others who could or would let you down to be the way forward.

I'll stick to my system and hope there is no unjustified pressure on legislation to change banding at birth.

 

[Dave6170]

But that's my point. It takes a squad/group to do it all in one go. It's a big job, lambs at 4 weeks old can be tvvats to gather so it can be stressful ... but you're doing other things at the same time so fair enough

My lambs are banded at birth (I'm lambing now). First time they'll be in the pens/handled is for Nemo dose in mid/late May...

I work alone - and I don't see getting casual labour to handle several hundred lambs getting any easier. I know plenty places in my area struggle as it is - maybe they don't pay enough, or maybe those potential workers expect too big a pay i don't know but i don't see relying others who could or would let you down to be the way forward.

I'll stick to my system and hope there is no unjustified pressure on legislation to change banding at birth.

Do you lamb inside or out?

 

[Nithsdale]

Do you lamb inside or out?

Outside.

 

[sheepwise]

Does the anaesthetic actually work fast enough? My experience with disbudding calves is that it needs at least 20 mins after injection to be fully effective. When you go to the dentist they don’t start with the drill immediately after giving you the injection.

 

[Macsky]

Does the anaesthetic actually work fast enough? My experience with disbudding calves is that it needs at least 20 mins after injection to be fully effective. When you go to the dentist they don’t start with the drill immediately after giving you the injection.

I’d imagine it’s for the hours post treatment, help keep the lambs up and on their feet beside mum, rather than languishing in a clump of rushes as mum makes her way off without

 

[Bob the beef]

Never used one myself, but a mate brought one home from NZ 2 years ago and used it in in 2022. Didn’t use it last year.Said it was a faff to use