Greythundercloudys
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Anyone bid for one and what were price like.?
Online dog sale.
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strong money,not much any good under £8000,always hard to judge on a video
Greythundercloudys
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I saw an 5year old on that Facebook page, looked a good dog, surely that wouldn't be so dear,
no,i would imagine that would be a fair bit less,most of the top priced dogs would be 2 to 3 yrs old
- Location
- North Yorkshire
Are all these dogs sold this way registered?
Called Ruby? If it was it made 4k. An 11 wk old pup made 6.1k!
Not all no. Unregistered are rare at a dog sale though.
- Location
- North Yorkshire
If they are unregistered but still usefull/good do they make strong money or are they heavily discounted?
Usually discounted, quite a lot in the past but I would think less so now. To register them with the ISDS costs around 600 so they should be at least that much less (if a buyer wants to register) but obviously for most looking for a work dog that doesn't matter.
CopperBeech
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- A Welsh man lost in England
Dogs are crazy money, but these sales have always seemed expensive to me. Lot of folk seem keen to get into trialing now and breeding dogs, seen some big prices paid for dogs bred the right way even if they looked a bit average. Anything half decent always seems very strong money, but I think there’s just a lot of folk who can’t train a dog.
Greythundercloudys
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Most of those big money dogs come to nothing, surly you can still pick one up for 1500,
- Location
- West Country
It’s relatively easy to make an average dog look half good moving 3 well-dogged sheep around a half acre paddock with some video editing. Then enter it in the sale with a £5k reserve. But then if people are buying them why not?!
Greythundercloudys
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Correct, if you have 15 ewe hoggs in a wee field after a week or so they are better trained than the dog, 7 unless you have shetlands.
Greythundercloudys
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The same years ago when there was alwaysafew every week in the Scottish farmer, everyone was a champion going buy the advert, now everyone is a champion going by the video.
CopperBeech
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- A Welsh man lost in England
Seems another fashion as well, suddenly lots of ‘dog trainers’ popping up on social media. Few sheep in a paddock, bit of nice photography work and you see yet another female shepherdess / sheep dog trainer.
Someone asked me for pros and cons of online sales.....
Pro
As a seller you can record something 378 times till it looks right on video
Cons
As a buyer you don't know if the dog has done something 378 times till it gets it right on video.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are plenty that are doing the videos with honesty in mind but there is always the potential for that.
I think the days of a trained dog being worth 1500-2k are gone (for now anyway). I'm sure there are still bargains to be had, but they'll probably need finishing off in training (which probably isn't a bad thing as the new owner and dog will form a different kind of bond to one that's bought trained). If you want something that's going to be right on any kind of sheep farm (hill or lowland) you should be looking at spending towards 3k and possibly more.
Pro
As a seller you can record something 378 times till it looks right on video
Cons
As a buyer you don't know if the dog has done something 378 times till it gets it right on video.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are plenty that are doing the videos with honesty in mind but there is always the potential for that.
I think the days of a trained dog being worth 1500-2k are gone (for now anyway). I'm sure there are still bargains to be had, but they'll probably need finishing off in training (which probably isn't a bad thing as the new owner and dog will form a different kind of bond to one that's bought trained). If you want something that's going to be right on any kind of sheep farm (hill or lowland) you should be looking at spending towards 3k and possibly more.
Greythundercloudys
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Did that guy cant mind his name Mr Bell?, he used to bring afew out for skipton afew years ago just have an acre or so at his house set up for training dogs.
Yes, he was a former horse trainer and used his old horse yard to get them up to speed, very nicely started but anyone I spoke to that bought one said you still had to finish off the training, and almost train them completely. Very rarely did you see the dog drive the sheep away from him in the sale on the field at Skipton.