Planning Applications, PD and the like (General Chat)

Discussion in 'Buildings & Infrastructure' started by GeorgieB82, Jan 2, 2017.

  1. Forever Fendt

    Forever Fendt Member

    Location:
    Derbyshire
    Just going to start pre app advice here as the planning fee is £18,018
     
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  2. Steevo

    Steevo Member

    Location:
    Gloucestershire
    Sensible.

    Sounds like you’re building an aircraft hanger!
     
  3. GeorgieB82

    GeorgieB82 Member

    No you don't need a D&A Statement, a covering letter will suffice. Just make sure the covering letter covers all the pertinent points from the GPDO on new agricultural buildings (distance from protected buildings, floor area, distance from highway etc etc) and ensure you justify the need for the new building. Councils are clamping down on agricultural pd with no real need.

    You will need to provide proof of your additional acreage as 5.5ac on its own does not permit you Permitted Development rights for a new agricultural dwelling, you must have over 4Ha.
     
  4. Forever Fendt

    Forever Fendt Member

    Location:
    Derbyshire
    ,Yes its a fair size, In debate with the LPA about the fee ,The scale of charge sheet says "Amount of floor space created by the development" i am taking this as internal dimensions but planning officer is saying external ,it makes a difference of almost £1500 but if i add an area of frst floor space they want to charge for this based on floor area :scratchhead:but they are doing the pre app for free, If i go for P/D on the first 1000m sq then put in full for the balance it will save £3696
     
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  5. GeorgieB82

    GeorgieB82 Member

    It is a difficult one as your council are reading it the way most we have dealt with do. I always argue that where a wall is positioned is not a floor so it can't be floorspace. If it read, what is the ground coverage then I would agree it's external. But if they put ground coverage then they couldn't sting you for the second floor.
    Fees on a sqm basis are always going to be argued.

    I would definitely investigate maxing it out on PD first.
     
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  6. Forever Fendt

    Forever Fendt Member

    Location:
    Derbyshire
    It would be to long a process and no certainty of getting all 3 phases passed ,given the opportunity the LPA would try and get the ridge line tiered to reduce visual impact and this would cost a lot in building terms ,the walls and uprights are almost 1m wide so a big difference on the sq meters for the fee
     
  7. HereBeDragons

    HereBeDragons New Member

    Thanks for that, appreciate it. Would your firm consider giving my application a check over before I apply? Total holding is just shy of 10 hectares, across 2 sites (4 miles apart), so I have enough to justify the barn.
     
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  8. GeorgieB82

    GeorgieB82 Member

    Yes I'm sure we could, just email it over to enquiries@sjmplanning.com when you are ready. We are closed for the next two weeks as I'm getting married next weekend and my best man is my boss and best friend of 30 years so he is coming up to Wales to help me with the last minute jobs.
     
  9. Still Farming

    Still Farming Member

    Location:
    Glamorgan Wales
  10. Kidds

    Kidds Member

    Location:
    Warrington
    Best of luck (y)
     
  11. GeorgieB82

    GeorgieB82 Member

    Thank you
     
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  12. Have a great day.

    Photos to follow, of course :whistle:(y)
     
  13. GeorgieB82

    GeorgieB82 Member

    Of course! Thank you!
     
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  14. Forever Fendt

    Forever Fendt Member

    Location:
    Derbyshire
    How long have you been 'planning' this;) Good luck
     
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  15. GeorgieB82

    GeorgieB82 Member

    Oh very good @Forever Fendt!

    We've only been together 18 months, engaged 11 and been planning this day for 10 of those 11!
     
  16. Steevo

    Steevo Member

    Location:
    Gloucestershire
    He’s gotta pay the fee himself this time too!
     
  17. Werzle

    Werzle Member

    Any handy hints/tips on getting planning for a new build house on a 100acre small holding which is being used for sucklers and sheep . My sisters daughter and her partner own the land and buildings and want to apply, she works off farm but he farms it while also helping out a few local farmers . It has a farm yard which consists of steel frame sheds and a caravan office which hasnt been applied for . They live 3/4 a mile away in a rented house. There is new builds going up everywhere within half a mile of there farmstead.
     
  18. WoodyWoodyWoody

    WoodyWoodyWoody New Member

    There's a minor family dispute going on at the moment which I'm kind of involved in but not really. It involves mother, step father and grandparents.
    My mother owns 50% of the land and my grandparents own the other 50%
    That's all okay but my grandparents haven't had anything to do with the land in over 20 years and all the bills for everything are in my step fathers name!
    He believes he would have squatters rights and they'd have zero power to stop him staying there to prevent the sale of the property. He said he doesn't intend to abuse that right but that is what he believes to be true!
    If this was true would he also have rights to sell the property?

    Any thoughts on this would be interesting.
    Tia
     
  19. static

    static Member

    Location:
    Lincoln-ish.
    Suppose it depends what sort of family relationship you all have, and if you'd like to flush that down the bog. The ownership is simple - if your step father wants to "sh!t on his own doorstep" then so be it.
     
  20. Werzle

    Werzle Member

    Trouble is you/they are going to have yrs of hassle/upset/stress and large legal bills . Might be easier to try and purchase it at a discounted rate as a sitting tenant and keep the family relationship intact imo.
     

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