Record Recession figures are finally in -20.4%

[arcobob]

Second homes as holiday lets need to be taxed to fudge. It's a bloody con that did the council out of a lot of tax.

Why not simply say tax the holiday industry until the pips squeak ? I have mixed feelings about all this second homes business but it seems like a chicken and egg situation. Did the holiday industry kill the traditional way of life or did local rural unemployment give fuel to the holiday industry?

 

[Muck Spreader]

Second homes as holiday lets need to be taxed to fudge. It's a bloody con that did the council out of a lot of tax.

What about all the £10,000 grants the government has paid out to holiday home owners for supposed loss of income. I see Cornwall council has already paid out £71 million to these people. The majority of this money going out of the county.

 

[primmiemoo]

Thank you. My daughter is a freelance self employed stage manager who has not worked since early March when her show was stopped overnight - and is unlikely to be back working properly until sometime next year.

Cheap labour for me though

It is a very tough time for freelancers and gig workers within the Arts. One might begin to think that HMGovt has never done that sort of work, or stopped long enough to see that it exists.

 

[GeorgeC1]

It is a very tough time for freelancers and gig workers within the Arts. One might begin to think that HMGovt has never done that sort of work, or stopped long enough to see that it exists.

Helps that certain big pub chain owners are tory donors.

 

[primmiemoo]

Second homes as holiday lets need to be taxed to fudge. It's a bloody con that did the council out of a lot of tax.

One of the Unitary Authorities in the SW Peninsula was surprised by how many unregistered lets via Air B&B or similar there are in its area after closings down at lockdown.

Official holiday accommodation is currently let at 50-70% occupation of a normal year, and the Region is full. The Region was full last year and the year before (remember the pleas by tourism reps then to stay away?) so there is a significant over supply of holiday accommodation across the board in the SW.

Bed, pitch, turnstile taxes to control weight of numbers of grockles are needed, unfortunately.

 

[primmiemoo]

Helps that certain big pub chain owners are tory donors.

Possibly, but politicians of all parties tend to be featherbedded trustafarians of one sort or another, these days. (Not all, obvs.)

 

[ollie989898]

What about all the £10,000 grants the government has paid out to holiday home owners for supposed loss of income. I see Cornwall council has already paid out £71 million to these people. The majority of this money going out of the county.

FFS!

 

[ollie989898]

Why not simply say tax the holiday industry until the pips squeak ? I have mixed feelings about all this second homes business but it seems like a chicken and egg situation. Did the holiday industry kill the traditional way of life or did local rural unemployment give fuel to the holiday industry?

It's a known fact that people claim their second homes are holiday lets as it dodges tax. It should be stopped. It's an abuse of the system.

 

[ollie989898]

Why not simply say tax the holiday industry until the pips squeak ? I have mixed feelings about all this second homes business but it seems like a chicken and egg situation. Did the holiday industry kill the traditional way of life or did local rural unemployment give fuel to the holiday industry?

If you try to squeeze the tourist industry, there will be little left in some parts of the South West. It's a major earner.

There is no rural employment, agriculture, game keeping, forestry, it's all been slimmed down for one reason or another.

 

[Farmer1001]

The next recession was all going to be the fault of Brexit.

Thanks for clarifying.

 

[Lowland1]

Want to sort out the economy stop panicking about the second wave and get things back to normal as quick as possible. We all know the risks by now and the precautions to take and its a world wide problem so open everything up and let’s get back to as near normal as we can. A ruined economy will kill far more than vivid 19 ever could.

 

[H200GT]

Whilst the 2nd quarter was bad, it was not unexpected, 3rd and 4th quarter results will be far more important.

I am optimistic about the uk’s ability’s to bounce back, free of the EU shackles and its ever growing debt, the UK will become a far more attractive place for investors over the next couple of years. Couple this with a few major Infrastructure projects, and we will start to see growth far sooner than many predict imo

 

[H200GT]

If you try to squeeze the tourist industry, there will be little left in some parts of the South West. It's a major earner.

There is no rural employment, agriculture, game keeping, forestry, it's all been slimmed down for one reason or another.

Same in NW Wales, hardly any industry here left, its all tourism. Local council planners, politicians and assembly members oppose any meaningful Job creating developments and then blame Westminster citing austerity when companies inevitably decide to close existing facilities or build new ones elsewhere

like turkey’s voting for Christmas

 

[czechmate]

I take it we are not taking Aberdeen. Last yer we had a number of days at around 40 deg C I had to stop leading straw on one of them as the tractor was lifting the road surface on one section of the road.

Floods in Aberdeen

 

[Bogmonster]

The country needs a big infrastructure project. All new smart roads for autonomous driving, Tesla Gigafacgory. Use the governments money to get people working, not to keep them at home preventing them from working.

The majority of people don’t want to work Uk government has created this system of useless barstewards . The east Europeans have took up the slack and are bleeding country dry . There’s no domestic economy left .no money in the bank accounts of the farmers tradesmen butchers or bakers .tescoes Asia Lidl and Europeans have all our money wake up and smell the coffee . When times like this challenge us the working class man has nothing to offer anymore he’s on his knees too and the dole leprechaun is suiting at home sponging on whatever money government has left .

 

[Ashtree]

Whilst the 2nd quarter was bad, it was not unexpected, 3rd and 4th quarter results will be far more important.

I am optimistic about the uk’s ability’s to bounce back, free of the EU shackles and its ever growing debt, the UK will become a far more attractive place for investors over the next couple of years. Couple this with a few major Infrastructure projects, and we will start to see growth far sooner than many predict imo

Give us your top three EU shackles! I’m intrigued!

 

[Pasty]

Sadly the Chancellor should stop spending money to try to stop businesses going bust. Every year hundreds of thousands of businesses fail. Let them go. They fail for various reasons but the UK is what it is because we have some great entrepreneurs. They take a chance. Some make it - some don’t. If there was no place for them in the market then they needed to go. If their failure creates a void a new entrepreneur will step in and fill the void. Let the market dictate. We are currently creating an environment of letting people think that the government will backstop their lack of financial prudence and skill. Our kids may never forgive us for the way we are spending money in the way the government is doing.

It's not real money. Our kids may never forgive us for closing down amazing country pubs that are just a memory. The current 'money' will soon be replaced by a new money which is crypto based and cash will be gone so they track us, trace us, tax us, imprison us if we step out of line on Facebook etc.

How is an entrepreneur going to replace my village pub which is 800 years old and was fine until this waank started? He's not allowed to open or if he is has to close by 10 and serve drinks to tables dressed as a frikking spaceman or some bullshittt.

 

[H200GT]

Give us your top three EU shackles! I’m intrigued!

By shackles, I mean the ability to control our own economic policies and not having to be shackled to the polices of the EU. Post Brexit we will have control of:

• What laws and policies we want to implement for the benefit of Britain. Since a ruling in 1964, all EU member states are basically forbidden from introducing their own laws and policies in areas that are covered by EU policies and laws.
• the ability to take control of the money that we currently contribute to the EU budget and have only a marginal say in how its spent.
• The ability to control our borders
• Which countries we want to trade with, and the tax rates we want to set between us
• Our own laws relating to working conditions and regulations
• Our own CAP
• UK fisheries and territorial waters
• not having to adhere to the European Court of Human Rights

There is a huge list of things that are currently controlled by the EU policies or laws that we can not change or alter in any way as our say in the EU was relatively small, we were 1 of 28 members. The EU is now far to big in my opinion, and its general direction is at odds with the UK. The writing was always on the wall when we never signed up to the euro.

I'm not saying everything the EU does is bad, far from it and there are a lot of EU laws I feel we should embrace. But ultimately as a voter i want to be able to vote in MP's and a government that have full control of the UK, its laws and polices.

Id rather be a big fish in a small pond, than a small fish in a large pond.

 

[wanton dwarf]

Yeah, companies will love remote working. The sooner they get jobs organised to operate like that, they can use people sat at home to do the work- in India.

Those that can get away with it already do .. if I remember correctly Lloyds Bank has even moved their IT operations to India - thereby exposing ALL their customers details to ???

Of course working Locally needs to be in Law .. those that want to use cheap foriegn Labour, bypass taxes and bypass social laws need to charged an anti social tax. The UK is not just a sales point it is a society, large companies are "Supposed" to be part of that society not working against it.

 

[ollie989898]

Those that can get away with it already do .. if I remember correctly Lloyds Bank has even moved their IT operations to India - thereby exposing ALL their customers details to ???

Of course working Locally needs to be in Law .. those that want to use cheap foriegn Labour, bypass taxes and bypass social laws need to charged an anti social tax. The UK is not just a sales point it is a society, large companies are "Supposed" to be part of that society not working against it.

Again, it's a great sentiment you have but I'm not sure I'm in favour of the state messing with private enterprise.