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Can we have a sticky for the fighting fund, might be more visible then?
It wont happen quickly, all thr lawyers are flat out on brexit£££££££££!!!!!!I think we're still at the 'discussing possibilities, and strategy' at the moment, but slowly formulating some sort of a plan.
I don't suppose all that many people will, have yet, have read to the end of this thread.
As Clive says, if we can maybe get a quick hour of consultation with the right person, then we would have something more concrete to build upon.
Anyone got any contacts or recommendations? We need contract, discrimination, competition and anti-trust law expertise.
I'm happy to get involved if anyone is needed to put a case forward i.e. Sit around a table or meet up with Legal eagle suchlike. I would imagine we will need a small team to move this forward eventually.I was away with family yesterday ...I don't have my phone or iPad with me on such occasions. I am with my family at the time and not concerned with looking at phone or iPad etc. Just suggesting there may be others like me that do the same . I find it so annoying when folks call by or pay a visit and they keep looking at their phone or texting .... I think you either want to be with us or you would rather keep in touch with others on your phone but please don't do both ! Likewise when I'm visiting outside of the business I too don't keep looking at my phone !
Just trying to explain a possible reason for lack of response.....not having a go !
Bloody good time to act, then?It wont happen quickly, all thr lawyers are flat out on brexit£££££££££!!!!!!
I’m sure @Walterp might give some free adviceIt wont happen quickly, all thr lawyers are flat out on brexit£££££££££!!!!!!
Haven't followed this thread, about what?perhaps he and @Danllan could team up
TBO I don't fully understand it myselfHaven't followed this thread, about what?
Open your eyes, and talk to the general public before you lose the battle, look around you might see the world changed, we now have investment in technology, I farm because it’s a business not just a birth right.My family farm been members since it was brought in. I cancelled it in July as I sold all my cattle in June to go travelling to New Zealand. Am home now and restocking and was contemplating re-activating my membership (had several letters whilst away asking me to re-activate). My intial rant on here follows a conversation with a friend active in NFU who told me regardless of what the members want whole life assurance for animals will be brought in. I am not advocating doing away with the scheme but more a wake up and listen to your membership protest.
Not quite right. It's UFAS they're after. As far as I can tell if they win it will be a good outcome for RT, ironically enough.TBO I don't fully understand it myself
I think a gang of folk on here want to drag RT through every court in the land but someone will be along to put it better no doubt
Not quite right. It's UFAS they're after. As far as I can tell if they win it will be a good outcome for RT, ironically enough.
RT is voluntarily joined - in theory - so I can't see what anyone thinks they will achieve. UFAS... it's boll*cks, I agree, but I can't see any hope of legal action (on what basis?) succeeding against it as I understand it.TBO I don't fully understand it myself
I think a gang of folk on here want to drag RT through every court in the land but someone will be along to put it better no doubt
Might be better to just read the last few pages, the issue is about different rules for imported produce which is then mixed with home produced grain. Or similar.RT is voluntarily joined - in theory - so I can't see what anyone thinks they will achieve. UFAS... it's boll*cks, I agree, but I can't see any hope of legal action (on what basis?) succeeding against it as I understand it.
If we had a national organisation representing farmers' interests, it might start a campaign pointing out to the public that RT means nothing more than that the farmer is following the law - which he has to anyway - and is charging them slightly more for his produce for RT to exist...
RT is voluntarily joined - in theory - so I can't see what anyone thinks they will achieve. UFAS... it's boll*cks, I agree, but I can't see any hope of legal action (on what basis?) succeeding against it as I understand it.
If we had a national organisation representing farmers' interests, it might start a campaign pointing out to the public that RT means nothing more than that the farmer is following the law - which he has to anyway - and is charging them slightly more for his produce for RT to exist...
It is the legality (or not) of the UFAS rules that I am questioning. All the mills who are UFAS accredited will purchase non-UK and Eire feedstuffs that have not passed an on-farm assurance audit. All UFAS accredited mills will only purchase UK and Eire feedstuffs that have passed an on-farm assurance audit...
Can you confirm that this paragraph is correct, particularly the underlined words.
And... that the feedstuffs will definitely be mixed?
It's not my field, but I think it extremely unlikely that this breaks any law. Check to see if there are specific dispensations / derogations away from what you suspect 'should' be the case. If there are not any, it is most probable that they weren't necessary since there was no divergence from the norm..As far as I understand it, the highlighted bits are correct. There are different standards for UK vs non-UK in their rules. This is the bit that I am trying to ascertain the legality of. It could be that this is perfectly legal.
The rules are that the mills in the UFAS scheme are able to trade non-assured materials if they keep them separate (from assured) and then sell them as straights. Materials from UK and Eire farms that go into blends/compounds needed to be farm assured.
Edit. So they can purchase non-assured from UK farms, but only assured if they are going to compound it.
Therefore, I think that any mill that is producing compounds will be applying dissimilar trading conditions to similar transactions depending on the country of origin of the materials.