Red Tractor Review

[westwards]

Is it not time we as an Industry stood together and turned this whole QA thing on its head and said if you get us 5p more for our milk we will give you XYZ and even ABC instead of the tail wagging the dog ?

 

[nonemouse]

Is it not time we as an Industry stood together and turned this whole QA thing on its head and said if you get us 5p more for our milk we will give you XYZ and even ABC instead of the tail wagging the dog ?

Plenty of threads about this in other parts of the forum, think all sectors are getting royally pee'd off with RT persistent mission creep

 

[it's not over]

I'm. Not red tractor,I get paid the same as the other producers, how much is rt worth,£0.00

 

[nonemouse]

I'm. Not red tractor,I get paid the same as the other producers, how much is rt worth,£0.00

But most producers in England and Wales, no red tractor, no milk contract

 

[Limefield]

At this stage the whole RT thing is an utter disgrace. I agree fully that a sensible standard needs to be kept by all farmers but the extent of the utter madness that this has now got to is incredible and now a document out last week from them where they are reviewing and brining in more hoops for us to jump through is disgraceful. Why aren’t our Unions sorting this out????

 

[vantage]

At this stage the whole RT thing is an utter disgrace. I agree fully that a sensible standard needs to be kept by all farmers but the extent of the utter madness that this has now got to is incredible and now a document out last week from them where they are reviewing and brining in more hoops for us to jump through is disgraceful. Why aren’t our Unions sorting this out????

Pretty sure the NFU have money in it. @Clive will probably know if he ventures over here into Dairy!

 

[buffalo_soldier]

Always said it's daft, they should prove their worth by adding value. Instead they are hell bent on more and more hoops.

Then when you realise you pay for this three times over and get a consultation in name only.

 

[Tarw Coch]

Is it not time we as an Industry stood together and turned this whole QA thing on its head and said if you get us 5p more for our milk we will give you XYZ and even ABC instead of the tail wagging the dog ?

Yep, they talk of reaping the benefits with red tractor.
All the consultancy firms seem to produce full cost of production figures for milk in excess of 30ppl yet many non aligned producers get significantly less.............I wish they’d explain what these benefits are cos it’s not the milk price

 

[gone up the hill]

Pretty sure the NFU have money in it. @Clive will probably know if he ventures over here into Dairy!

The NFU co-own the RT company and logo @vantage

One of the top three NFU team always sit's on the RT board ( they are paid tens of thousands of ££s a year for the board role )

Until a few months ago the NFU president aka Minette Batters sat on the RT board and rubber stamped everything the board as a whole wanted to introduce, she had to be dragged kicking and screaming from her RT board role as she did not understand/ could not see that it was a massive conflict of intrest for the sitting NFU president to also sit on the RT board...

 

[Chris F]

Red Tractor is owned by AHDB, NFU, BRC and Dairy UK. AHDB are the only one who contribute financially to the tune of £260k a year. Board members from all the above to protect their private limited company and the gravy train of jobs it provides them.

Disgrace, shambles are the words most associated with Red Tractor right now. However they are so tone deaf, they will prospbably just ignore all the noise and carry on regardless.

 

[Clive]

Is it not time we as an Industry stood together and turned this whole QA thing on its head and said if you get us 5p more for our milk we will give you XYZ and even ABC instead of the tail wagging the dog ?

that’s an idea - lets propose to pay them on % results ? ........ suspect they would decline that “generous” offer

 

[Bury the Trash]

that’s an idea - lets propose to pay them on % results ? ........ suspect they would decline that “generous” offer

or at least be useful enough put a sensible a bottom in the market for those times when commodities are on the floor when that happens and theres a load of extra costs and.faffing around ..well thats the worst of times

 

[bigw]

Try having a look for the red tractor logo next time any of you are in a supermarket as its hardly used anywhere! Companies have to pay to put it on their packaging i believe.

 

[Jdunn55]

or at least be useful enough put a sensible a bottom in the market for those times when commodities are on the floor when that happens and theres a load of extra costs and.faffing around ..well thats the worst of times

And that would actually help keep standards and animal welfare up! The time when standards and welfare slip the most is in times of desperation due to a massive shortage of money because of unexpectedly low prices!

 

[Chris F]

Try having a look for the red tractor logo next time any of you are in a supermarket as its hardly used anywhere! Companies have to pay to put it on their packaging i believe.

That's because hardly any processed foods (maybe some cheese's) carry the Red Tractor logo. Because they can't as they include a whole myriad of preservative and derivatives.

A good example - Walkers Crisps say they use 100% British potatoes, but do they use the Red Tractor Logo? I must of eaten 1000s of packets of walkers crisps and yet I can't tell you. I know from the marketing they use British potatoes, but I don't know about Red Tractor. That shows what their marketing team thinking of RT.

This is as close as they get to red tractor in their marketing

 

[frederick]

I think one of the main problem is we now have an audit similar to many other industries. However most of these industries have a small team dedicated to audit compliance. Unfortunately current levels of red tractor audit requirements are beginning to get outside the skillset found on most farms.

 

[westwards]

Lets have a look at the first proposed change to dairy standards "tethering " I would guess that it is the retailer who have asked for this, will we be told who wants it ???
And if it is the retailers will they then stop buying cheese from all the Alpine regions where nearly ALL cows are tethered !!
Not a fecking chance, its one rule for us and they can do what they like. If tethering is banned it follows there will be no shows no cattle at Agriscot and the Highland and no bull sales which will stop farmers making a living is that what the aim is in all this ?

 

[Limefield]

So what do we all as farmers do about all of this???

 

[Tarw Coch]

So what do we all as farmers do about all of this???

Wings and moan on tinternet.

 

[westwards]

So what do we all as farmers do about all of this???

I have and am banging on about it with NFUs , but you need folk with BALLS representing us not yes men. And do they (Red Tractor) ever listen to the primary producer ? Doubt it.