Just wondering if anybody has any experience with making employees redundant, nearing retirement and contracting out arable land has left us without the need for staff but having not made anybody redundant before we’re not sure where to go for advice! Both staff members have been with us for over 20 years. Thanks for any advice given.
Redundancy
- Thread starter Tractorgirl
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Glaws
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- Location
- Gloucestershire
Step 1: Check if redundancies are necessary: Managing staff redundancies: step by step - Acas
What you should do when you're considering making redundancies.
- Location
- East Sussex
Expensive but legal process is imperative.
NFU have legal people who can help with this if you are members.
If you are thinking of retiring and ending the business it is an easier process.
NFU have legal people who can help with this if you are members.
If you are thinking of retiring and ending the business it is an easier process.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
This^
If you are NFU members, their advice on this is very good. It’s never a pleasant job, much less if they’ve been with you some time like that, but make sure it is done (technically) right, or someone will be helping them to claim unfair dismissal.
Exfarmer
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- Bury St Edmunds
I think any contractor taking over has to give your staff a chance at a job.
Even so you should oay full redundancy unless they give a gurantee of taking over redundancy rights.
My solicitor advised paying full plus a tad even though my man was taken over with rights.
Even so you should oay full redundancy unless they give a gurantee of taking over redundancy rights.
My solicitor advised paying full plus a tad even though my man was taken over with rights.
.Take professional advice and be very careful, your contractor might be obliged to take on your staff if you get things wrong.
Goweresque
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- North Wilts
It did occur to me that TUPE might apply. Effectively this is an outsourcing situation. Existing employees jobs being taken by outside contractor. Actual work to be done remains the same.
https://www.cipd.co.uk/Images/7697-a-guide-to-tupe-transfers-web_tcm18-44310.pdf
Some serious HR/legal/tax advice needed IMO.
Quite agree, don't cut corners, don't skimp on cost, do it right.
Thank you all for your replies, thought it would be best to consult a firm that deals with employment law. That’s what we will do, don’t want anybody getting/doing the wrong thing and making the horrible process worse for either side!
I wrapped up our diversification earlier this year and had to make 6 good men redundant (horrible, but had to do it) NFU callfirst were excellent in guiding me through the process.
.gov website has a simple redundancy calculator which is handy too. Solicitors can sometimes overload you with jargon and mights and ifs, which guaruntees them a wedge - worth it on occasions, but its much simpler if you're making all staff redundant, rather than needing to select some of a team. As I say, NFU were great in this regard, for no charge too.
.gov website has a simple redundancy calculator which is handy too. Solicitors can sometimes overload you with jargon and mights and ifs, which guaruntees them a wedge - worth it on occasions, but its much simpler if you're making all staff redundant, rather than needing to select some of a team. As I say, NFU were great in this regard, for no charge too.
At what point would one discuss the likelihood of redundancy due to retirement with the employees? A friend of mine had to do this and part of the deal was cheap or little rent on the tied houses for a period following reduncy. The employer felt it important to ease the process, particularly as the employees were quite long standing.
glasshouse
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- Location
- lothians
Perhaps should have looked into this before you contracted the work out?
glasshouse
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- lothians
What diversification?
Agricultural haulage - we had 7 hgv's, mostly on bulk work. It was my late father's enterprise - without the time and graft he put into it, it just didn't pay.
never made anyone redundant but have had to sack a few over the years
use a Specialist HR company, don’t mess about with the NFU (amateur) or even solicitor (expensive). as this is a very specialist area which will cost you a lot of money if you get it wrong
I can recommend a good company who I’ve used in the past if you don’t know one ? It’s not expensive if you do it right
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