Rochdale By Election

[Danllan]

With respect what's the difference between a Christian and yourself?

They follow Jesus and you follow Rishi? Regardless of what he does, you will still suspend your critical faculties and vote Conservative. No different to a Christian following Jesus, you will blindly follow your leader Rishi.

Would you not accept that the Christian faith is far more principled in contrast to the Conservative party, adultery, lying, theft, allowing the death of innocent civilians etc are all prohibited in Christianity

You have a habit, probably deliberate, of writing things for which there is no evidence and which are not true...

I do think the Conservatives, even now in the appalling state that we find them, are still less harmful to the UK than Labour will be. I do not like Sunak.

All that aside, your analogy is very poor, since there are huge numbers of people who profess to be Christians and yet who do all that you ascribe to Conservatives, and more.

And, if you will claim that I write of the people not the religion, you must have a pretty poor knowledge of the Christian bible and the doctrines it prescribes.

 

[Ashtree]

And yet, as the ECJ has confirmed - and you finally admitted - as a member of the EU, you can't be sovereign, since the EU is, odd that...

YOU, do not get the reality, that we the people, in the interest of growth and a reasonable future for generations to follow, have knowingly and willingly decided to pool certain aspects of national sovereignty with our European neighbours.
I was born into a poor, backward country, 100% economically dependent on Britain. The future was no different.
We decide of our own free will to join the EEC and subsequently to further imbed to the EU project.
Your comfort blanket, of sovereignty is I put it to you, but a thin, ragged, torn cover for not alone Brexit, but a seemingly failing political system and system of governance.
I’ll take sovereignty which looks after my children and grand children, any day, over a faux sovereignty, which does nothing but devalue that future. #liveintherealworld

 

[Lowland1]

YOU, do not get the reality, that we the people, in the interest of growth and a reasonable future for generations to follow, have knowingly and willingly decided to pool certain aspects of national sovereignty with our European neighbours.
I was born into a poor, backward country, 100% economically dependent on Britain. The future was no different.
We decide of our own free will to join the EEC and subsequently to further imbed to the EU project.
Your comfort blanket, of sovereignty is I put it to you, but a thin, ragged, torn cover for not alone Brexit, but a seemingly failing political system and system of governance.
I’ll take sovereignty which looks after my children and grand children, any day, over a faux sovereignty, which does nothing but devalue that future. #liveintherealworld

Yes but I’ve now got a blue passport which allows me to queue at borders I used to be able to walk through . Oh hang on that’s not a benefit at all.

 

[Hindsight]

YOU, do not get the reality, that we the people, in the interest of growth and a reasonable future for generations to follow, have knowingly and willingly decided to pool certain aspects of national sovereignty with our European neighbours.
I was born into a poor, backward country, 100% economically dependent on Britain. The future was no different.
We decide of our own free will to join the EEC and subsequently to further imbed to the EU project.
Your comfort blanket, of sovereignty is I put it to you, but a thin, ragged, torn cover for not alone Brexit, but a seemingly failing political system and system of governance.
I’ll take sovereignty which looks after my children and grand children, any day, over a faux sovereignty, which does nothing but devalue that future. #liveintherealworld

The relevant sentence. And the sentence that shows British exceptionalism for what it is.

You will know - are there any small countries in EU where there is any desire from a significant part of the population for their country to leave the EU?

 

[flinty123]

You have a habit, probably deliberate, of writing things for which there is no evidence and which are not true...

I do think the Conservatives, even now in the appalling state that we find them, are still less harmful to the UK than Labour will be. I do not like Sunak.

All that aside, your analogy is very poor, since there are huge numbers of people who profess to be Christians and yet who do all that you ascribe to Conservatives, and more.

And, if you will claim that I write of the people not the religion, you must have a pretty poor knowledge of the Christian bible and the doctrines it prescribes.

Rishi was handed the post by God maybe? He isn't there on Merit or ability even George has him scared

 

[Lowland1]

Rishi was handed the post by God maybe? He isn't there on Merit or ability even George has him scared

Rishi was handed the post by God ( Shiva ) to punish the British. It’s a direct result of Brexit now we are ruled over by foreigners and the immigrants who used to at least look like us are now much darker. It’s divine retribution.

 

[flinty123]

Rishi was handed the post by God ( Shiva ) to punish the British. It’s a direct result of Brexit now we are ruled over by foreigners and the immigrants who used to at least look like us are now much darker. It’s divine retribution.

I always assumed Mr Danllan was anti immigration? Yet his party have allowed 1.2 million immigrants in legally and probably a further 500k? In through the back door during 2023?

Shiva has made sure our steel trade is firmly in the hands of India, God works in mysterious ways.

I can understand why Labour stood aside and let George win in Rochdale, he provides a great distraction from uncovering the shortcomings of the main political parties.

 

[BrianV]

I always assumed Mr Danllan was anti immigration? Yet his party have allowed 1.2 million immigrants in legally and probably a further 500k? In through the back door during 2023?

Shiva has made sure our steel trade is firmly in the hands of India, God works in mysterious ways.

I can understand why Labour stood aside and let George win in Rochdale, he provides a great distraction from uncovering the shortcomings of the main political parties.

I have a feeling "George" will take great pleasure in pointing out the short comings of both the main parties, which is probably scaring the life out of them.

 

[Lowland1]

I always assumed Mr Danllan was anti immigration? Yet his party have allowed 1.2 million immigrants in legally and probably a further 500k? In through the back door during 2023?

Shiva has made sure our steel trade is firmly in the hands of India, God works in mysterious ways.

I can understand why Labour stood aside and let George win in Rochdale, he provides a great distraction from uncovering the shortcomings of the main political parties.

When Andrea Leadsom was Minister of Agriculture ( whatever it’s called ) she visited my son’s school to give a talk on the benefits of Brexit one of the benefits she told the assembled A level politics student’s was that now all the jobs the immigrants had been doing would be now done by the indigenous population. My son asked the question’Did she really think the soft local population would be prepared to get up at dawn and wrestle broccoli?’ She told them of course they would the only thing stopping them was the fact that previously the immigrants had undercut the locals and now wages would go up and the locals would head back to the fields. My son told her that was rubbish but it was fine because his Dad had a farm in Kenya and it was good for him. My lad got into a bit of trouble for being disrespectful. Richard Tice’s son would have been in that lecture too. However if a 17 year old kid had got it why hadn’t the Government .

 

[robs1]

Au contraire! We, the people told the government, the establishment and the EU, to pee off, and come back with a much better deal.
They did after lengthy public consultation, come back with sensible wording and legal structure and assurances. We gave our approval. In ROI, our votes count, and government has to think carefully before changing anything constitutionally based.
We have another referendum in a few weeks on family law etc. Changes proffered by government after a long and lengthy consultation process and citizens assembly involvement.

You keep telling yourself that,

 

[Danllan]

YOU, do not get the reality, that we the people, in the interest of growth and a reasonable future for generations to follow, have knowingly and willingly decided to pool certain aspects of national sovereignty with our European neighbours.
I was born into a poor, backward country, 100% economically dependent on Britain. The future was no different.
We decide of our own free will to join the EEC and subsequently to further imbed to the EU project.
Your comfort blanket, of sovereignty is I put it to you, but a thin, ragged, torn cover for not alone Brexit, but a seemingly failing political system and system of governance.
I’ll take sovereignty which looks after my children and grand children, any day, over a faux sovereignty, which does nothing but devalue that future. #liveintherealworld

YOU do not get the ECJ's, and the EC's reality that there is only EU sovereignty, it takes precedence over all. It took you years to admit this, and you only did so after being faced with no alternative. And now you have 'altered' your opinion, hmm... about as reliable as a Russian 'truce'.

Your children and grandchildren, best wishes to them all... I am sure they will be safe, hiding as the ROI does behind a UK, NATO and EU security blanket, not contributing to it any way. And, of course, as with all such things and not knowing any different, they'll also believe the BS about 'EU democracy', and maybe even 'Irish sovereignty' too if you keep telling them of it...

And what about the much-vaunted EU-solidarity. Where will the ever so 'European' ROI be when the people of Lithuania, Poland or Finland call for help as a militaristic dictatorship heads their way? We know the answer to that, and we also know that the ever-so horrible UK will be right by them, shoulder to shoulder.

Your endless hate-quest against the nasty imperialist Brits and our awful history might be more credible and less absurd if you applied the same standards to your EU masters in France and Germany, and fellow minions of the Netherlands, Portugal, Spain and - of course - the truly vile Belgium, among others. But, for some reason, you choose never to respond regarding their histories, nor that of the Irish themselves in the British Empire... odd that.

Fact is, for decades past and as things stand currently, you're parasites and fair-weather friends; just meaning nationally of course, there are many good and decent individual Irishmen who loathe all of the above - good on them and I hope they can influence their countrymen to be less hypocritical, better 'neighbours' and staunch allies...

Just saying...

 

[Danllan]

Rishi was handed the post by God maybe? He isn't there on Merit or ability even George has him scared

Surely that would argue against the 'God' you have pleaded for...

 

[tractorsandcows]

George carried in a load of the postal votes in his hat