Round bailing

Discussion in 'Livestock & Forage' started by dws, Jun 23, 2019.

  1. neilo

    neilo Member

    Location:
    Montgomeryshire
    Really? I’d have thought that about right for round baling (not wrapped or chopped obviously).
     
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  2. d williams

    d williams Member

    There will be at least £1 of fuel and net
    £1 a bale depreciation in a decent baler
    It may be the rate but they are losing money at that
     
  3. neilo

    neilo Member

    Location:
    Montgomeryshire
    Surely depreciation is nowhere near a pound a bale, even with swanky new kit?:scratchhead:
    I’d agree it’s not a highly profitable job, mostly because every man and his dog has a round baler and is happy to do a bit of extra work with it, but unlikely to be losing money at £3.
     
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  4. d williams

    d williams Member

    Dealers will work on a £1 a bale average trade in value of a baler no won’t be losing money but won’t be making any
    The bit I can never work out is people going and doing little jobs and charging the same as a couple of hundred bale jobs
    I now charge a minimum to hitch up and leave the yard if the jobs not big enough to make a decent profit
     
  5. Poorbuthappy

    Poorbuthappy Member

    Location:
    Devon
    How'd you work that out?
    New McHale baler at £28/30k?
    S/h ones about with 40k bale count at £13k, whereas at £1/ bale depreciation contractor would have to pay to have it took away?
     
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  6. Boohoo

    Boohoo Member

    Location:
    Newtownabbey
    A Fusion loses £1 a bale in the first year or 2, other baler/wrapper combinations lose up to £1.50 but a stand alone baler shouldn't be losing £1 a bale unless it's an undesirable brand that's been abused and neglected
     
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  7. Northeastfarmer

    Location:
    Cleveland
    Just traded my baler in for a new one
    £1 a bale depreciation
    Was meticulously maintained and in perfect condition
     
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  8. Boohoo

    Boohoo Member

    Location:
    Newtownabbey
    What was it and how many bales had it done?
     
  9. d williams

    d williams Member

    It’s the average and the dealers work on £1/ bale
    Second hand slurry tankers used to be a £1 a gallon second hand years ago as a average dealers have their tricks of the trade
     
  10. d williams

    d williams Member

    A fool and his money easy parted?
    There will be exceptions but a dealer told me that was rule of thumb
     
  11. Northeastfarmer

    Location:
    Cleveland
    Was a JD and had done about 16k bales
     
  12. Chae1

    Chae1 Member

    Location:
    Aberdeenshire
    My McHale will be 7k to get it taken away now.
     
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  13. onthehoof

    onthehoof Member

    Location:
    Cambs
    So for horsey customers make them 3’6 and charge a fiver they would be pleased as punch as they would be easier to handle
     
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  14. onthehoof

    onthehoof Member

    Location:
    Cambs
    Do you feed the hay in feed rings
     
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  15. Northeastfarmer

    Location:
    Cleveland
    No central passageway...just roll them out
     
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  16. Hfd Cattle

    Hfd Cattle Member

    Location:
    Hereford
    Quite surprised about round baling costs . We have our own baler but when under pressure get someone else in . There are 2 that I would call on first one charges £2.20 and the other £2.40 . They always have plenty of notice so that they can factor it in and one or other will always come .
     
  17. d williams

    d williams Member

    If I was in your position and could 200%rely on them it would be cheaper for you to use them
    Measure your fuel in next time your baleing and cost your net just those two costs and see how close you are
     
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  18. Northeastfarmer

    Location:
    Cleveland
    New baler 30k new tractor 60k, netwrap and diesel all for £2.20 a bale
     
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  19. d williams

    d williams Member

    Adds up
    We charge £4.50 for over 100 bales and £5 under 100 bales there could be additional costs added also
    Only do outside work to have convince of machinery’s to do our own when we want there’s no fortunes at those rates I don’t know what others charge in the area and don’t fuxking care that’s what we charge
     
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  20. Chae1

    Chae1 Member

    Location:
    Aberdeenshire
    60p for net. £40 hour for tractor. Average 40 bales per hour with travelling etc £1 per bale. 60p depreciation. Gets to your £2.20.

    Chain oil, pick up tines servicing.

    20% profit? £2.70per bale.
     
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