Yeah I know what you mean, never accept the first price usually a deal to be had.
Rumenco maxx or crystalyx
- Thread starter Komatsu
- Start date
- Location
- West Wales
He was just a checkout man who didn’t know anything about the blocks etc... can’t blame him, it isn’t his job to know..
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
I had some 20kg Downland Optilix (identical to Rumenco Maxx) tubs at the same time as I had a dozen big ones, so they came at pallet price. I've just checked the invoice and they were £15.69/20kg. That was through Agrii.
- Location
- West Wales
Thanks for the info, especially the Agrii part, a very good friend of mine is an agronomist for them..
That still works out at £784/t
- Location
- Easter ross
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
I didn’t claim it was cheap, just cheaper than £20 a bucket.
To be fair, they do a job where you want to supplement something, but with very low intakes. My April lambers are on tidying up some short, very rough grass. I’ve been giving one mob of 300 a round bale of 2012 hay every other day and they are taking 5-6 days to get through an 80kg Optilix bucket. I can’t think of anything else where they would have such restricted intakes.
I don’t want to fatten them, jus5 stop them losing as much condition while they are being forced to bear down some cr*p. I’ve never fed them for as long after (Nov) tupping before, and have been surprised at the low intakes. They’ll be stopped as soon as they go onto roots later in the month.
Komatsu
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- Location
- Thurso caithness
Quoted 750/t for maxx buckets although they wouldn't supply locally it had to go through unofficially
Mine came from CLB although haven’t had any for a while so no idea on current price. Do HBS supply them down your way?
- Location
- Easter ross
They do crystalyx and also them that asked about the maxx
Sheepfog
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- Location
- Southern England
I didn’t claim it was cheap, just cheaper than £20 a bucket.
To be fair, they do a job where you want to supplement something, but with very low intakes. My April lambers are on tidying up some short, very rough grass. I’ve been giving one mob of 300 a round bale of 2012 hay every other day and they are taking 5-6 days to get through an 80kg Optilix bucket. I can’t think of anything else where they would have such restricted intakes.
I don’t want to fatten them, jus5 stop them losing as much condition while they are being forced to bear down some cr*p. I’ve never fed them for as long after (Nov) tupping before, and have been surprised at the low intakes. They’ll be stopped as soon as they go onto roots later in the month.
Out of interest how would a liquid feed compare (molasses urea) in terms of cost and consumption to those buckets? It would obviously be a lot more time consuming, but would it be cheaper?
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
Yeah, £750/t here too.
But they said it'll depend if they have any old stock left. Price will go up when they have to order a new batch in
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
If you feed basic molasses, it is around 13p/kg IIRC (18p/l) compared to roughly 75-85p/kg for buckets (depending on what you buy)... so for every tonne of buckets you can feed 5t+ of molasses.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
With the (low protein/rough) forage mine are on currently, I would expect them to take lot more liquid feed, but to do considerably better on it. I’m only looking to stop them losing too much though, as they’ll be going onto root crop’s shortly. If they hit them in too good a condition, they will be as fat as buggery by April.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Not really a good comparison though, as straight molasses is very low in protein. Liquid feeds with similar protein (urea) levels to Chrystalix/Maxx blocks are closer to 50 ppl.
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
Only replying to the question asked, which was a basic molasses... I guess it depends what you actually want the molasses to do? If purely as an energy source will you be too worried about protein?
You weren't far off - 44p/l (32.59p/kg) is what I've just ordered today for what is basically the liquid version of Rumevite Lifeline
Greythundercloudys
Member
750 a ton, always think blocks are a luxury product, they are handy but expensive.
- Location
- Limousin, France
What protein would that be, pleaseOnly replying to the question asked, which was a basic molasses... I guess it depends what you actually want the molasses to do? If purely as an energy source will you be too worried about protein?
You weren't far off - 44p/l (32.59p/kg) is what I've just ordered today for what is basically the liquid version of Rumevite Lifeline
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
16%.
I forget the Rumenco name for it, but through a Downland supplier it is Eweliq16.
It is the same product though. When I first enquired the Download sales rep put me in touch with the Rumenco liquid feed rep and animal nutritionalist who assured me it all comes from the same tank... to check up on that I went to another supplier of molasses and asked for the Rumenco analysis which read exact same as above
Greythundercloudys
Member
I put out a 80kg down land block last Tuesday, it's finished today!!, only 110 ewes in batch. Is that good or bad.