Rural way of life under attack?

Bald Rick

Moderator
Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
It made me very angry (& not a little sad) to read about Ms Jenny Roberts who is having to stop using her horse drawn canal barge on the River Wey in Surrey because of the abuse and intolerance of other people on the tow path



Now juxtapose this with the first vegan food bank opening in Bath


And I give up
 

JSmith

Member
Livestock Farmer
Another English way of life being pushed aside by people who have no knowledge an there for no fecking right to give an opinion on such things!! That’s what those cob type horses were bred for, to go all day at a steady pace, it’s called a working animal an most certainly looked after better than these snowflake feckers look after there fat lazy pets!! Hardest bit about that job is the initial pull an even then it wouldn’t be any effort for such an animal, after that it’s easy an anyone of us could do the same thing!! It’s shame that such weight has been given to the opinions of such people in this country🤬🤬
 

traineefarmer

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Mid Norfolk
Bonkers and infuriating.

I don't have much knowledge of working animals and came across a man working some logging ponies in mid wales several while hiking several years ago. I was quite naive and while chatting to the man asked about how difficult it was to make the horses work and gauge when they were tired and in need of rest.

He told me that they loved to work and the hardest thing was getting them to slow down so they didn't wear out their human handlers! With that a pony came charging up the (very steep!) hill and started fussing around his handler eager to be hitched on the next bundle of logs.

This was a revelation to me. As a cattle farmer, I have a decent understanding of animals, but had wrongly assumed that working animals were under some sort of servitude. Just shows how important education of rural traditions is and how easily wrong opinions can form.

On the subject of a vegan food bank, it's probably not a bad idea. At the peak of Covid madness when supermarket shelves were being stripped of many food items, the one shelf that was always well stocked was the vegan aisle. The waste of these products must be very high. I would certainly need to be penniless, starving and have it given for free before I'd eat it.

Mind you with where farming is headed, I'll probably be in exactly that position pretty soon!
 
Those horses- if they didn't want to do that job they wouldn't do it, believe me. It's the same lame argument about horse racing. You won't force an animal like that to do anything it doesn't want to do.

I bet you could ride one of those tow horses whilst it had the boat behind it all day every day and it would still look for more.

Having the ability to tell people to f off and mind their own business is rapidly becoming an important skill these days.
 

JSmith

Member
Livestock Farmer
Exactly this^ totally agree, but until somebody in power gets some bollcks and stands up to these fools we’re fighting a losing battle I fear!! Look how many of us agree on a multitude of things but for some reason you can’t speak your mind for fear of being called a hate monger or far right extremist!! These soft feckers got more clout than we do
 
When I was a lad my two uncles worked for The forestry Commission in Kerry (Mid Wales) I used to go up with them on a Saturday morning.
They had 2 working horses. Bella and Stan. To me, at that age they were huge animals and scary with it. No way to get any machine in on some of it..too steep. These were Percheron cross about 17 hands and built for the job.. Hook tree on at one end and unhook at the other.
As a matter of fact I was there when the Manager brought up the first chainsaw. Up to then they used felling axes.
 

PuG

Member
The farmer across the valley has bells on his cattle. Traditional French foothills, very rural, and they've always been used. Local second home owners (Belgium's in this case) and a few others use to complain to high heaven about the noise.

So I've now put them on my vache the opposite side of the hill :) so they have it in stereo.

But there important, once its stopped it will be gone for ever and it makes a difference on herd checking.
 

teslacoils

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Sigh.

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Muck Spreader

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Limousin
The farmer across the valley has bells on his cattle. Traditional French foothills, very rural, and they've always been used. Local second home owners (Belgium's in this case) and a few others use to complain to high heaven about the noise.

So I've now put them on my vache the opposite side of the hill :) so they have it in stereo.

But there important, once its stopped it will be gone for ever and it makes a difference on herd checking.
Well done. (y) :)
 

How much

Member
Location
North East
The farmer across the valley has bells on his cattle. Traditional French foothills, very rural, and they've always been used. Local second home owners (Belgium's in this case) and a few others use to complain to high heaven about the noise.

So I've now put them on my vache the opposite side of the hill :) so they have it in stereo.

But there important, once its stopped it will be gone for ever and it makes a difference on herd checking.

I cant think of a more pleasant sound , love the sound of grazing cows in the french alps when i've been there its very relaxing and reason to buy a home there not a reason to get rid of the bells.
 

Tomr10

Member
I don’t know what these people what to happen to animals, essential that horse is not going to get the same amount of exercise and if bringing in no money could potentially be put down
 

bobk

Member
Location
stafford
It made me very angry (& not a little sad) to read about Ms Jenny Roberts who is having to stop using her horse drawn canal barge on the River Wey in Surrey because of the abuse and intolerance of other people on the tow path



Now juxtapose this with the first vegan food bank opening in Bath


And I give up
This country is full of knuts nowadays , unfortunately they wish to bring everyone down to their level .
 

Bald Rick

Moderator
Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
This country is full of knuts nowadays , unfortunately they wish to bring everyone down to their level .

Unfortunately it’s the instant life we lead.
Smart phones and social media can instantly bring down a load of sh!t on your head .... sometimes literally as we found out with the “MX5 incident”.

There is little enough fun in the job without having to contend with Know Nothings
 

bobk

Member
Location
stafford
Unfortunately it’s the instant life we lead.
Smart phones and social media can instantly bring down a load of sh!t on your head .... sometimes literally as we found out with the “MX5 incident”.

There is little enough fun in the job without having to contend with Know Nothings
Missed the MX5 incident , smartphones work both ways .. ;)
 

delilah

Member
The vegan food bank currently feeds about 16 households a week, with food parcels including beans, lentils, fresh fruit and vegetables, vegan alternatives to milk, and a treat.

About 16 will mean rather less than 16. City the size of Bath. And the treat probably means a decent steak. I'm not going to lose any sleep over vegan food banks.
The working horse story though is genuinely sad, hope the lady can look back with pleasure on the 35 good years.
 

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