Scotland beef efficiency scheme

[Top Tip.]

And yet every single calf in the country gets two tags inserted after birth???

@Top Tip. are you sure you haven't made this up???

It is true,I took a while to get my head round it, there are different acts that cover ear tagging for identification and bvd but not one for tissue tagging.

 

[P.O.T]

What I dont get about the whole thing is that you get paid per hectare instead of just looking at bcms for calves born. There also seems little thought of efficiency as with oir own head is referenced at 56 cows in 2015 but by next year we will have double that number but they wont allow an increase to our reference number! Seems set up for the big farmers again that can reduce herd and still get paid the same. Typical really.

 

[Happy]

What I dont get about the whole thing is that you get paid per hectare instead of just looking at bcms for calves born. There also seems little thought of efficiency as with oir own head is referenced at 56 cows in 2015 but by next year we will have double that number but they wont allow an increase to our reference number! Seems set up for the big farmers again that can reduce herd and still get paid the same. Typical really.

That's because the whole thing was cobbled together to get it as pillar 2 environmental funding under reducing greenhouse gasses/emissions guise. Can't be seen by EU to be giving out headage payments.

Talking of emission though. If something looks like s**t and smells like s**t then it usually is. Not really surprised it is running into unforeseen issue such as calves away to mart before the powers that be spot a big dod of the aforementioned heading towards the fans next to their cosy office desks.

Glad I took the Duncan Bannatyne approach on this one.

 

[Hilly]

That's because the whole thing was cobbled together to get it as pillar 2 environmental funding under reducing greenhouse gasses/emissions guise. Can't be seen by EU to be giving out headage payments.

Talking of emission though. If something looks like s**t and smells like s**t then it usually is. Not really surprised it is running into unforeseen issue such as calves away to mart before the powers that be spot a big dod of the aforementioned heading towards the fans next to their cosy office desks.

Glad I took the Duncan Bannatyne approach on this one.

They should just scrap it as a bad job and stick the money on the calf sub.

 

[Bossfarmer]

5-6k for doing very little, ill take that

 

[Happy]

5-6k for doing very little, ill take that

Thought you might.
Hope you haven't based your calculations on getting paid for 5 years.

 

[Bossfarmer]

3 years but tbh after 3 years we might not get much sub anyway

 

[puppet]

Apparently if you had 100 calves last year but now downsize to 20 you still can tissue test 20% and get the full payment as it based on calves per acre. Who said slipper farming was dead.

 

[biggmw]

Aye but if you have twenty this year and one hundred next.........

 

[puppet]

Aye but if you have twenty this year and one hundred next.........

You get paid for 20 as that is your base year. Nice to have the stock but BES will not change

 

[biggmw]

Exactly..... leaving their pennies to sail into the laps of folk who have cut down!!

 

[puppet]

Amazing how this was negotiated. We are thinking of withdrawing and trying next year but no guarantees it will be available.

 

[Happy]

Exactly..... leaving their pennies to sail into the laps of folk who have cut down!!

Hardly likely to be a big issue this scenario though is it?

A pretty paltry payment over 3 years is hardly likely to attract many people to go into a scheme thinking if I go into this then scale back by 75% then I'm a real clever chap that's worked the system!

I certainly wouldn't be using the beef efficiency scheme as my clincher on whether to expand or reduce numbers by drastic amounts either way.

 

[biggmw]

Hardly likely to be a big issue this scenario though is it?

A pretty paltry payment over 3 years is hardly likely to attract many people to go into a scheme thinking if I go into this then scale back by 75% then I'm a real clever chap that's worked the system!

Very true however like sfp it isn't really aimed at the production it is trying to help the efficiancy of.

I realise it isn't and can't be truly coupled but just makes you wonder...... more principle than anything

 

[Half Pipe]

most likely the administration that will make most £s

 

[Bipper]

Could you do a freedom of info request to get a breakdown of where the money goes?

 

[Bossfarmer]

anyone done their carbon audit for it yet?

 

[Crex]

I don't think you need to do it this year, just watch the video online. @Bossfarmer

 

[Bossfarmer]

what video?

 

[Crex]

what video?

If you log in to the ScotEID website, and click on Beef Efficiency Scheme, one of the tabs is called 'BES Video', just watch that.