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Scotland invades England

Agrivator

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Livestock Farmer
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Scottsih Borders
Not live.
Scottish lorries had the live ones. Had to sit outside on the road while a convoy of carcasses came in.

I would expect the carcases would take priority, particularly if a squad of workers in the cutting and packaging section were twiddling their thumbs. ''Sweat-shop'', ''slave labour'' and ''piece -rate'' come to mind. You really need to see it to believe it.
 

Happy

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Scotland
Word "Lairage" means where "live"stock are dropped off.

Thats where i always drop ours off. Then go to lairage office with passports.

That‘s correct.
Issue was they couldn’t enter site at all until chillers lorries were out of the way.
As you say, just lorry driver that told me. Make of it what you will but there’s an awful lot of smoke with this whole Irish/Polish beef job for there to be no fire somewhere.

If horse meat can be turned into beef then turning Polish beef into Irish then into Scotch should be relatively easy. Especially if you own all the plants.
 
Not live.
Scottish lorries had the live ones. Had to sit outside on the road while a convoy of carcasses came in.
I'm not sure the logistics of that all stack up.

With a slaughter plant big enough to be killing cattle and have spare chill space for 8 lorries of beef that had to come in a convoy, why would the chill end of the plant be holding up the killing end, they have to be at opposite ends of the facility.

Why would they bring in 8 lorries at one time to cause so many staff to be needed? Particularly on a killing day and cause livestock to stand on lorries for what I'm assuming would be half a shift while 8 lorries get unloaded?

I'd guess they would make the dead cattle wait instead of live ones, or is at least hope so.
 

Sharpy

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Livestock Farmer
I'm not sure the logistics of that all stack up.

With a slaughter plant big enough to be killing cattle and have spare chill space for 8 lorries of beef that had to come in a convoy, why would the chill end of the plant be holding up the killing end, they have to be at opposite ends of the facility.

Why would they bring in 8 lorries at one time to cause so many staff to be needed? Particularly on a killing day and cause livestock to stand on lorries for what I'm assuming would be half a shift while 8 lorries get unloaded?

I'd guess they would make the dead cattle wait instead of live ones, or is at least hope so.
I would suggest that the beef would have been diverted from an Irish plant, possibly the trucks needed to turn round fast for the ferry?
 
I would suggest that the beef would have been diverted from an Irish plant, possibly the trucks needed to turn round fast for the ferry?
All 8 lorries? Which Irish plant has that capacity alongside what comes through their own kill line?
Back to reality, all 8 would never all get unloaded together, and certainly wouldn't be on a quick turn around if they were to be staying in convoy.
Unloading an artic fridge full of beef takes quite a bit of time, (it's most likely to be sides if it was being taken into a slaughter plant where it would almost certain to be boned and cut) that's not a quick tip for the driver.

Sounds like a tale from a lorry driver that has spent too much time in a lorry cab alone with nobody to share his stories with.
 

glasshouse

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Location
lothians
I think it’s more likely the polish beef is ending up in Ireland
I have heard the rumours about polish beef in scotland too
Lorry drivers are good sources of info that certain companies would rather you didnt know .
another one brought to light by drivers was that large pickle making company who were selling brock spuds to tisco for £350/t as as dug potatoes, not paying the producer a penny for them in 2012
 
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Hilly

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It has just been announced that the Scottish Government has given QMS a £90,000 grant to promote Scotch Beef and Scotch Lamb in England.

A well-known, but as yet unidentified chain store in England, is exclusively to sell only Scotch Beef and Scotch Lamb.

We all know that Scotch Beef (if not Scotch Lamb) has a very high reputation, and it is obvious that English beef and lamb producers will be highly delighted at this bold initiative.
Keep hearing about all this dodgy beef being imported through Ireland. Still haven't seen any concrete evidence to back it up. Its just what a lorry driver said. Any lorry drivers care to take some pictures/provide some evidence to back it up?




Innocent until proven guilty in my book.
Agree , but less fat cattle than ever more people than ever never a hint of shortage always told produce too much ..... come on someone is ripping the pee .
 
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