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Just being lazy! Will have a look.
Just being lazy! Will have a look.
Thanks!
So if I have understood all this correctly, IF we wish to continue to claim,
1 We cannot continue to use AI as we risk going over time (AIed 7 this year, looks like 4 held and 3 held to bull 6 weeks later.) So much for keeping a closed herd for high health reasons.
2 Heifers are exempt until second calf.
3 Any stillborn calves will need need to be tagged and registered.
4 A cow that lost a calf last year but is in calf again won’t be penalised next year provided live calf within 410 days.
5 We need to make sure bulls go in with cows as soon as possible after calving (rather than at present choosing time for our convenience.)
Sorted. Is it worth it?
Apparently this scheme was introduced in response to an SRUC study by an academic, by politicians who are not farmers, without consulting actual farmers. Has anyone read the actual paper, or got a reference?
are you sure about that?Not that bad as not forced to keep calving within 410 for all cows to be able to claim on same. The payment per calf will automatically increase if less people are able to claim.
It's up £5 per calf this year because less calves registered.are you sure about that?
Freak AI bull from Genus. Supposed to be easy calving Angus. The calf was big. I don't jack, never had the need by design! and she didn't bring one on call??? FFS. Went to get it, came back and didn't know how to use it. Found out later from other TFFers that they had had the odd oversized calf from this bull too. One had a section on a blue from him.
Not sure how it will work next year when less able to claim due to increased calving index
Everypenny counts but £5 dose not go far nower days ….It's up £5 per calf this year because less calves registered.
Not sure how it will work next year when less able to claim due to increased calving index
thankyou I couldnt get my head around what this waiting 11 months was aboutAll my heifers are bulled at 13-15 months of age. I don't buy out of sync heifers.
I reckon an obvious risk of fixating on certain factors, given that we are not omniscient, is that ‘you don’t know what you’ve got til it’s gone’. Spotting problems is easy, spotting things that aren’t (but potentially could be) problems is much harder.Maybe, but in my experience when you select for specific traits you will tend to have problems in other areas. It’s the law of unintended consequences.
That wasn’t directed at deckothankyou I couldnt get my head around what this waiting 11 months was about
Depopulation agenda. You are the carbon they are trying to reduce.So, there about 400,000 coos in Scotland.
Well, there's seemingly 2million wildebeest marching across the Serengeti, half a million buffalo charging across the plains of America and over 9 million reindeer and caribou making their way up and doon fae the arctic every year.
Is somebody checking up on their calving intervals, to save the planet? Hmmm?
Why are we, tiddly wee Scotland, being encouraged into this nonsense which will make no difference in the grand scheme of things.
A nice lady who keeps a few top "quality " cows really serious- does DIY AI etc , told us how pleased she was with a huge bull calf that came out of the side door and how well the cow had perfectly healed and would breed again , they didnt even attempt to calve it she said - I asked what the aim was with these cows ,she said "to produce stock bulls to sell " I smiled sweetly and let it go .How about this one @unlacedgecko
In a breed I'm involved with the National show champion is a cow born in Feb 2017, her first registered calf was born March 2021 (so she was 4yrs 1mth), her second calf was registered Jan 2023 (a 22mth CI)! Either she's been unlucky and had 2/3 dead calves in that time or she has crap fertility.
Either way in my book she should have gone long ago, even though I'm pedigree and show as well, but she got National Champion so her owners probably feel justified in running her on.
wasnt directed at anyone just didnt understand what waiting 11 months was aboutThat wasn’t directed at decko
Some people are getting excited about the 410 days but are willing to hold the bull off to fit in with their ideal something I could never afford to dowasnt directed at anyone just didnt understand what waiting 11 months was about
Supposed to be paid today, I’m actually surprised it’s not up more. 4626 less calves registered in the north east last year.It's up £5 per calf this year because less calves registered.
Not sure how it will work next year when less able to claim due to increased calving index
Thats alot of beef ! Could be around 1700 tons ..Supposed to be paid today, I’m actually surprised it’s not up more. 4626 less calves registered in the north east last year.
That’s like three big Friday’s in Thainstone gone.Thats alot of beef !
Ah ok. You're system sounds very stabiliser like. We're doing the same thing here. Take no passengersNo stabilisers here
Mine in the bank yesterdaySupposed to be paid today, I’m actually surprised it’s not up more. 4626 less calves registered in the north east last year.