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Justified responsible use V sales driven use...What do you define as overuse ?
Justified responsible use V sales driven use...What do you define as overuse ?
Justified responsible use V sales driven use...
I think these threads have consistently acknowledged that all agronomists have decisions to make at time based on perceived risk and the clients objectives, it's been said time and time again that there is a huge depth of talent in the serviced ranks.Do all independent agronomist never on any occasion advise / recommend a treatment unless it is truly justified? Be interested to hear, for example, on this thread about autumn pyrethroid advice on cereals from independent agronomists. Or on same tack before its demise the advice on which crops to treat with Deter seed treatment. Or other such more 'controversial' issues. The thread is I appreciate about service/sales agronomists and is to malign them almost en masse. Personally I consider there are possibly good and bad in both camps. Hey ho.
Do all independent agronomist never on any occasion advise / recommend a treatment unless it is truly justified? Be interested to hear, for example, on this thread about autumn pyrethroid advice on cereals from independent agronomists. Or on same tack before its demise the advice on which crops to treat with Deter seed treatment. Or other such more 'controversial' issues. The thread is I appreciate about service/sales agronomists and is to malign them almost en masse. Personally I consider there are possibly good and bad in both camps. Hey ho.
The only thing an indy can get wrong is the recommendation. He can't get the chemical choice wrong or be blamed for no delivery or the wrong stuff delivered because he has nothing to do with that. Simple put he walks the crops, gives a recommendation of AI's and rates and job done.
With serviced they are doing everything except applying the stuff.
It is not just an organic variety but a high grade milling variety with the potential of +£15 over Group 1 into Heygates. But the yield potential is a little below Skyfall/Zyatt.The nelson is spotless even in the corners where I missed with the sprayer just very tall but still standing well I migh be brace next year and leave a small feild not sprayed at all unless it desperately needs it but I was always told it's a organic variety
Hi, I beg to disagree on the chemical choice. And indy can get it wrong as well.
As for blame for wrong stuff delivered that to an extent depends on the depth of service which Indy supplies. There are some that arrange for supply as well - for example from a buying group.
The other points you refer to are logistics of stocking and supplying the stuff and then the pricing of the items. On pricing which seems to get a fair bit of air time on here, I can get cauliflower from same Lincolnshire field at different prices by simply visiting Waitrose or Aldi.
I must be careful on this thread and forum as being tarnished as a service agronomist appeaser. But my observations is that there is a complex supply chain that requires some funding and profitability. And a range of agronomists.
But I am not out for picking a fight. Best wishes.
An Independent agronomist walks a crop and decides on the AI needed.
A serviced agronomist walks a crop having already thought about what he is trying to achieve with the chemicals they have in stock whilst thinking about the margin in the chemical sales. Its a very different job in my view and one that should be separated.
Corrected for you
Strategy documents lay out the options for various scenarios, these are identified or updated as the season progresses. We don't do field walking so not really comparable with the subject of this thread, final decision is left with the farmer but we try and help him/her all the way.But do independent agronomist not think ahead with some thoughts about actives and products. I read my TAG strategy documents and there seems to be a plan laid out in those documents. Is that not similar if not same.
I must really now shut up as I will come across even more as a service appeaser.
Hey ho, as I say not wishing to pick any fights.
Oh and did I mention on TFF that when I visited Holland on a study tour last month that they are legally restricted to maximum spraying speed of 8kph and from next year will have to have a system that logs the use of their sprayer in real time with he authorities.
Our business income comes from telling the truth. It's rare these days and attracts a lot of interest, and hence business.How do you know Tag’s advice is truly independent? They could easily be suggesting things to suit their business income.
You could say the same about indepenent agronomists and each one will have a favorite chem that they thinks does a better job than others at least tag has lots of them so they can discuss it before making a decisionHow do you know Tag’s advice is truly independent? They could easily be suggesting things to suit their business income.
You’re being so ludicrously cynical maybe you should do the trials yourself.How do you know Tag’s advice is truly independent? They could easily be suggesting things to suit their business income.
they publish all the trials results for all members to see plenty of farmers understand the science and interprete the results and would soon call out niab tag if they did not recommend the alternatives and back it up with trials resultsHow do you know Tag’s advice is truly independent? They could easily be suggesting things to suit their business income.
You’re being so ludicrously cynical maybe you should do the trials yourself.